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[-] Jean_le_Flambeur@discuss.tchncs.de 166 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Agree with you in general, but I think a lot if people here are not really informed what differences there are materialistic ideologies.

Yes, Stalin bad.

But Guevara is not Stalin.

Marx is not che

Engels is not Marx

China is not communist.

Marxism is not materialism

Socialism is not communism

Also the amount of people bringing the "the 3 times people tried socialism were bad, so the whole ideology must be bad" argument are way to high IMHO.

How many times was capitalism tried? How many times it worked out? Is the USA a "functioning" state with all the oppression, racism, greed, invading other countries out of monetarian interest and environment destruction?

While I agree with you, that oppression is bad, no matter what the oppressor calls himself, we should talk about policies without resorting to dogmas and generalising people in favor of fear the hegemonic class is propagating to stay in power.

[-] Sekoia 115 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that's not the tankies here; these are "North Korea is a great country, actually" tankies.

[-] pleasemakesense@lemmy.world 93 points 1 year ago

Also, "anything negative about a communist country is US propaganda"

[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 73 points 1 year ago

or "russia is correctly in invading ukraine"

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[-] SuddenDownpour@lemmy.world 78 points 1 year ago

When a liberal says "tankie" they mean anything remotely communist-looking. When a leftist says "tankie", they mean authoritarians who like red flags and self-proclaimed communists who nonetheless support hierarchies and have no plan or intention to bring them down. I think the vast majority of people here knows this already.

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[-] Ginjutsu@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Is the USA a “functioning” state with all the oppression, racism, greed, invading other countries out of monetarian interest and environment destruction?

I hope you realize that this is an incredibly privileged take. The US is rife with issues, but the hardships experienced by the average western citizen doesn't even compare to the suffering that you would find in, say, Pol Pot's Cambodia, or (to a less extreme extent) Maduro's Venezuela. To compare what a US citizen deals with on a daily basis due to capitalism to what a citizen of any of those countries had to go through is very reductive and may be perceived as disrespectful to many who had to live those experiences.

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[-] tanja 133 points 1 year ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Based.

They already have lemmygrad.

Honestly, I don't think we need them here.

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[-] rowie324 104 points 1 year ago

tankies more like no thankies

[-] lazy_digestive 90 points 1 year ago

This comment section is really something uh

[-] Silverstrings 135 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Tankies on their way to explain why teaming up with the Nazis to conquer Poland is actually based and totally in line with Marxist philosophy.

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[-] BlinkerFluid@lemmy.one 74 points 1 year ago

Thank fuck. I thought Lemmy was some ultra militant leftist hellhole before the shift.

I don't like extreme radical left any more than extreme radical right.

Fuck Che Guevara. Read a book.

[-] fae@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago

tankies arent radical left. they are authoritarians ffs

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[-] Big_Farto@sh.itjust.works 71 points 1 year ago

I got banned from lemmygrad for saying acab means all cops lmao

[-] phthalocyanin@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

they yearn for the glorious people's boot

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[-] shadowscale 68 points 1 year ago

there's literally a community called "moretankie196", they should go infest that one instead

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[-] moss 67 points 1 year ago

Just removed like 40 comments and banned a buncha people.

[-] dsmaster7173@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

holy shit they kicked the tankies out of 196

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[-] animelivesmatter 66 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

finds social media developed by tankies

looks inside

finds tankies

fr I'm down with having a good old purge eventually but noone should be surprised

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[-] buckykat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 56 points 1 year ago

What are some good actual communist lemmy communities that aren't supporting the fucking capitalist imperialist russian invasion?

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[-] Whisdeer@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago

Can we have something like tankiejerk here? I seriously liked browsing that sub after a bad day with the red fashs.

[-] Kaladin_Stormblessed 48 points 1 year ago

that sub often tended towards outright anti-leftism

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[-] BalconyPhantom@dataterm.digital 46 points 1 year ago

Vaush moment

[-] starship_lizard@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago
[-] chalkman@sh.itjust.works 85 points 1 year ago

Hard-core authoritarian communist. The kinda peeps who support Stalin and shit

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[-] lauchmelder@einweckglas.com 46 points 1 year ago
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[-] 1988Passive_Browsing 40 points 1 year ago

I have always wondered why it always says "Kick _" when she is punching instead of kicking. Lol.

[-] 1988Passive_Browsing 40 points 1 year ago

300 Comments already. Oh my god! Lol.

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[-] NoTime@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago
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