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[-] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Do you think they can salvage themselves?

[-] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 months ago

They're too big to fail both in sheer size and strategic importance. I don't see the US government actually letting them fail. But what do I know.

[-] Zron@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

I’m sure Intel makes all sorts of chips for military hardware.

They won’t be allowed to die. How will the missile be able to subtract where it isn’t from where it is if the chip that does the subtracting isn’t made anymore.

I’m wouldn’t be surprised if there hasn’t been a full investigation into the intel fabs due to this. If consumer chips have been melting themselves for years due to shit manufacturing, shouldn’t someone in the DOD be asking if the chips in their fancy missiles are going to melt themselves halfway to the target?

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

They won’t be allowed to die, but we can pressure the government to buy and hold. It’s known that the 08 bailout and sale at a loss was a bad look. A government owned chip company isn’t a bad idea for national security and federal funding

[-] zarenki@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

The conditions that processors run under in situations like military equipment are drastically different from those of consumer devices. Consistency and stability are more important than performance in those contexts. So much so that RTOS systems like VxWorks are popular in that space. They'd probably already have features like clock boost disabled (or use processors completely lacking it) in favor of a lower fixed clock speed, probably avoiding these issues entirely.

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 4 points 3 months ago

Realistically speaking, Intel is an industry juggernaut with extremely valuable IP up the wazoo, extremely lucrative contracts with major partners, etc. the number of extremely good Intel chips, the number of consumer and business use cases where an intel chip is the best choice.

I really don't forsee them going out of business, and I don't see them ceasing production of x86 processors. The lead time on new processor development is almost a decade, so the next several generations of Intel Processors are too far into production to be prudent to cancel (and probably will be perfectly worth releasing and selling assuming these microcode and fabrication issues are limited to 13th and 14th gen)

I think the biggest shift would come if there's significant flaws in the 15th & 16th gen processors. That would certainly be enough to need to significantly alter their business model away from x86 processors development, because that would be about 3 years of horrible sales and tarnished reputation and that would be more than enough time to pivot existing IP that isn't affected by this into workable new products, even if it's just "let's run the E cores at 3x the power budget" or "drop the voltage to nothing and sell only mobile chips" or even "let's drop the process node on 12th gen and play with that for a few years"