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submitted 1 year ago by GreenSage@lemm.ee to c/chan@lemm.ee

A lot of times people who argue with me about Zen express an understanding based upon a misinformed stereotype of what Zen is and what Zen Masters are like.

In addition to the lie of sitting meditation practice, people tend to think Zen Masters are these things:

  • always nice

  • always calm

  • never making claims

  • never hurting anyone

  • always uttering eloquent and profound magical sayings

So a mean, riled-up Zen Master who makes claims and rude utterances and possibly hurts some people seems outright impossible to these sorts of misguided souls. And so, they stumble past the Zen Masters.

The following is one of my favorite Zen quotes because it flies in the face of these ignorant stereotypes while also getting down to business:



Master Zhenjing said to an assembly:

"Buddhism does not go along with human sentiments. Elders everywhere talk big, all saying, 'I know how to meditate, I know the Way!' But tell me, do they understand or not?

For no reason they sit in pits of crap fooling spirits and ghosts. When people are like this, what crime is there is killing them by the thousands and feeding them to the dogs?

There is also a kind of Chan follower who is charmed by those foxes, even with eyes open, not even realizing it themselves. They wouldn't object even if they poured piss over their heads.

You are all individuals; why should you accept this kind of treatment? How should you be yourself?"

~ Treasury of the Eye of True Teaching #37



Zen is about "enlightenment or bust"; "true self or bust".

People who lie about Zen, about enlightenment, and about who they are?

They are busted.

Don't be like them; study Zen while you're here instead.

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submitted 1 year ago by TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee to c/chan@lemm.ee
A monk asked Ummon, "What is the teaching that transcends the Buddha and patriarchs?"

    Ummon said, "A sesame bun."
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submitted 1 year ago by h3mlocke@lemm.ee to c/chan@lemm.ee

cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/2818869

I found an interesting book, Zen's Chinese Heritage, The Masters and their Teachings by Andy Ferguson. It goes through the 1st twenty-five generations of Chan masters, beginning with Bodhidharma and ending with Foyan.

The main source material for this book is the Wudeng Huiyuan (Compendium of Five Lamps), dating from the mid-1200s. This excerpt is about Shenhui, the student of Huineng, also the one believed to have written the Platform Sutra.

HEZE SHENHUI (670–762) was an eminent disciple of the Sixth Ancestor. He strongly supported and promoted Huineng’s place in Chinese Zen history. Shenhui championed the Southern school of Zen, and vociferously attacked what became widely known as the Northern school, the school associated with Yuquan Shenxiu.

Shenhui put forward two reasons for his attack on the Northern school. The first was, “The (ancestral) succession is spurious.” Attacking Shenxiu’s legitimacy as the Dharma heir of Hongren was an extension of Shenhui’s proposition that that honor belonged exclusively to Huineng. Obviously, the argument was self-serving as well, since Shenhui could thus make a claim to be the true Seventh Ancestor of the Bodhidharma line.

The second reason for attacking Shenxiu was, “(His) Dharma gate is gradual.” By this, Shenhui meant that the various “gradual” spiritual practices employed by Shenxiu, as well as other disciples of Hongren, were fundamentally at odds with what Shenhui regarded as the genuine Zen of his teacher, Huineng.

Shenhui’s life and teaching are at the center of the most hotly debated questions of Zen history and thought. He is a controversial figure who set a standard of teaching that emphasized sudden, unmediated enlightenment. This characteristic of Chinese Zen distinguishes it from other Buddhist schools. The idea of nonmediated, sudden enlightenment clearly took solid root as a centerpiece of Chinese Zen during Shenhui’s era and suffused the teachings of subsequent generations of the Southern school.

Shenhui’s Zen, expounded in the name of the Sixth Ancestor, castigated the idea of “gradual” enlightenment achieved through meditation and religious practices that were meant to realize and maintain “pure original mind.” Shenhui’s proposition, in effect, attacked not only the Northern school, but many of the practices that were part and parcel of Daoxin and Hongren’s East Mountain Zen tradition as well, including their basic outlook on meditation practice.

Scholars have documented that Daoxin, Hongren, and Hongren’s disciples variously used “gradualist” practices, practices that set religious life distinctly apart from secular life, in their practice centers. One example was Hongren’s disciple Zishou Zhishen, the founder of the Sichuan Zen school, who is believed to have heavily emphasized chanting Buddha’s name over all other practices.

Yet Shenhui has been shown to have tampered with, not to say subverted, the historical facts surrounding Huineng’s life to gain ascendancy for his “sudden” Zen ideology. Shenhui’s account of Huineng’s life contains self-serving inconsistencies. Moreover, his writings about earlier Zen development, particularly the succession of Zen ancestors beginning with Shakyamuni Buddha, contain blatant errors and contradictions.

The “Northern” school was the name applied by Shenhui to the most politically dominant and powerful stream of Zen of his era. This stream was a continuation of the East Mountain school of Hongren, as taught by his disciple Shenxiu, and by Shenxiu’s own many disciples who were spread through northern areas of the country. Shenxiu obtained unprecedented influence at the imperial court during the late seventh and early eighth centuries. Shenxiu’s disciples Puji and Yifu then carried on this influence until events overcame the school around the year 755.

Shenhui’s main attack on the Northern school occurred at a conference he staged at Great Cloud Temple in Huatai in the year 734. In that meeting, Shenhui put forth the “Exposition on Determining Right and Wrong [with respect to] Bodhidharma’s Southern school.” The conference staged a debate between Shenhui and a certain “Dharma master Chongyuan,” who defended the Northern school. Although the influence of this conference on the imperial court and public opinion is disputed, the meeting clearly laid out lines of battle between the doctrines of the southern and northern currents of Zen.

After the conference at Huatai, Shenhui proceeded to live in the northern capital city of Luoyang, where he directly confronted the Northern school by inciting opinion in public gatherings. Eventually, Shenhui was banned from Luoyang as a rabble-rouser. During the period of his banishment, historical events transpired that helped his cause. The An Lushan uprising, a catastrophically destructive rebellion against the Tang dynasty, led to the destruction of the twin capital cities of Luoyang and Changan. The areas suffering devastation were important regions of Northern school predominance. This direct destruction of the Northern school led to a vacuum of court influence that Shenhui’s followers managed to fill. Thus, the Southern school gained social and political ascendancy not simply due to a preferred religious doctrine, but as the unforeseen result of a civil war that wracked northern China during that era.

Shenhui thus founded what became known as the Heze (in Japanese, Kataku) school of Zen. The branch largely died out during the early ninth century and is not remembered as a major school. Nevertheless, the doctrine of sudden enlightenment remained a central characteristic that defined the teaching styles and cultural flavor of later Chinese Zen. In the next Zen generation, Mazu Daoyi’s Hongzhou school vigorously adopted a teaching style that expressed the “sudden” Zen outlook. That school displaced Heze’s school in influence during the ninth century, but the doctrine espoused by Shenhui had lasting influence on all subsequent generations of Zen teachers.

I've read elsewhere about more modern scholarship casting some doubt on Huineng, and the division of Northern/Southern schools. I think John McRae has written about it, but I'm going to have to search for some of his articles.

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submitted 1 year ago by h3mlocke@lemm.ee to c/chan@lemm.ee

cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/2593059

I found some interesting articles from the Journal of Chan Buddhism. This is volume 1, there is a volume 2, but it's behind a paywall, or you can possibly get them if you have an institutional login...

I've only read the Repositioning Xinxing 信行 (540–594) in the Chinese Meditation Tradition. It was interesting, but I've yet to find any more information on Xinxing, but it seems he was pretty early in the Chinese Chan record.

Also I've been wanting to find more peer-reviewed journal articles on Chan, if anyone has any suggestions on where to look!

The peer-reviewed Journal of Chan Buddhism: East Asian and Global Perspectives is the first of its kind in English to specifically present academic research about Chinese Chan, Korean Sŏn, Vietnamese Thìên, and Japanese Zen Buddhism. The Journal of Chan Buddhism is an interdisciplinary or cross-disciplinary journal and will accept submissions from all academic disciplines related to the study of Chan/Sŏn/Zen Buddhism, including, but not limited to: the history of religions, literary studies, Dunhuang Chan studies, Tibetan and Tangut language Chan studies, doctrinal studies, art historical perspectives, institutional history, anthropological research, and comparative, philosophical studies. The journal also offers book reviews and translations into English of innovative research articles by eminent scholars in East Asia. The Journal of Chan Buddhism has separate area editors (e.g., Chan, Sŏn, Zen) to facilitate broad but still multifaceted coverage of Chinese Chan Studies, Korean Sŏn Studies, Vietnamese Thìên Studies, and Japanese Zen Studies.

The journal is hosted by the Buddhist Studies Forum at the University of British Columbia (UBC), funded by the Tianzhu Charitable Foundation of Guangdong Province, China, and facilitated by a Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council (SSHRC) project on Buddhism and East Asian Religions (frogbear.org) at the University of British Columbia (UBC).

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This is a community dedicated to the teaching of Chan / Zen in the form it emerged in China. This community does not recognize branches which call themselves Zen but have no connection to these lineages.

We do not recognize Zen as a form of Buddhism or as being synonymous with Buddhism.

Chan Buddhism: Chan Buddhism, known as Zen in Japan, originated in China during the 6th century CE. It emphasizes direct insight into one's true nature and the nature of reality, often through the use of meditation (called "zazen" in Japan). Chan practitioners seek to transcend conceptual thinking and intellectual understanding, aiming for direct experiential realization of enlightenment. Chan masters are known for using unconventional methods, such as using paradoxical questions called "koans," to disrupt ordinary thinking and awaken their disciples to the profound truth. Chan Buddhism places a strong emphasis on the transmission of enlightenment from master to disciple and has been influential in shaping the broader Zen tradition.

Dogen's Zen: Dogen Zen, also known as Soto Zen, is a Japanese school of Zen that was founded by the monk Dogen Zenji in the 13th century. Dogen studied Chan Buddhism in China and then returned to Japan to establish his school. While Dogen's Zen shares many core principles with Chinese Chan, it introduced some unique aspects. Dogen emphasized the practice of zazen (seated meditation) as the primary means of attaining enlightenment, without necessarily relying on koans. He stressed that enlightenment is not something separate from everyday life but can be realized through fully engaging in mundane activities. This notion is encapsulated in the famous phrase "practice-enlightenment" or "shikantaza," which means "just sitting" or "just being." Dogen's teachings also emphasized the concept of "non-duality," the idea that enlightenment and delusion are not separate realms but are interconnected aspects of reality.

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This is a community dedicated to the teaching of Chan / Zen in the form it emerged in China. This community does not recognize branches which call themselves Zen but have no connection to these lineages.

We do not recognize Zen as a form of Buddhism or as being synonymous with Buddhism.

Chan Buddhism: Chan Buddhism, known as Zen in Japan, originated in China during the 6th century CE. It emphasizes direct insight into one's true nature and the nature of reality, often through the use of meditation (called "zazen" in Japan). Chan practitioners seek to transcend conceptual thinking and intellectual understanding, aiming for direct experiential realization of enlightenment. Chan masters are known for using unconventional methods, such as using paradoxical questions called "koans," to disrupt ordinary thinking and awaken their disciples to the profound truth. Chan Buddhism places a strong emphasis on the transmission of enlightenment from master to disciple and has been influential in shaping the broader Zen tradition.

Dogen's Zen: Dogen Zen, also known as Soto Zen, is a Japanese school of Zen that was founded by the monk Dogen Zenji in the 13th century. Dogen studied Chan Buddhism in China and then returned to Japan to establish his school. While Dogen's Zen shares many core principles with Chinese Chan, it introduced some unique aspects. Dogen emphasized the practice of zazen (seated meditation) as the primary means of attaining enlightenment, without necessarily relying on koans. He stressed that enlightenment is not something separate from everyday life but can be realized through fully engaging in mundane activities. This notion is encapsulated in the famous phrase "practice-enlightenment" or "shikantaza," which means "just sitting" or "just being." Dogen's teachings also emphasized the concept of "non-duality," the idea that enlightenment and delusion are not separate realms but are interconnected aspects of reality.

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