https://www.npr.org/2021/06/10/1005263835/new-report-details-firsthand-accounts-of-torture-from-uyghur-muslims-in-china This is the first result when I typed in "uyghur firsthand account"
I'll read it when I get home in a few hours unless you have another source(s) you'd prefer.

It's very easy to say this, because it means you can just reject any evidence to the contrary as "not good" or "biased".

Accusations of genocide aren't a fucking game. It's either happening or it isn't. Either the evidence is good or the evidence is bad (and all evidence is biased) So give us some good evidence.

It? I sure hope you aren't talking about a human person.

We've tried nothing and we're all out of ~~ideas~~ evidence 😔

So it's just the browbeating for me today then?

Pretend all you want that you're "just asking questions"
That's pretty much exactly the same as the Israeli line

vibes of a genocide denier

doesn't change facts.

What facts! I'm still waiting for one. We can go round and round all day but until you show me something to center this on it'll be a waste of time. In 30 years even your ABC will quietly walk back their claims of genocide and I hope when that happens you will tell the people around you not to trust the same sources that lied to you.

There's no racial component to it at all

That's a pretty bold statement to make. Have you seen the west?

Are you or are you not genociding the people of mars right now?

You see that's kind of where the problem is. You can say there's a genocide and I can say "where" and that gives me the vibe of a genocide denier. I've looked for evidence, I've asked for evidence, but the best I've ever gotten is a satellite image of some prison in China, some (AI padded) mugshots with no context, and some thorough browbeating by very serious liberals.

Let me put this another way. I'm of Jewish descent. My great aunt was in a camp. I'm not trying to "deny" any genocides, but what should my standard of evidence be? Particularly when there is a clear incentive for western media to create false narratives about their enemies, and have done so before?

If you have something to present that I haven't seen, I and the other "tankies" are wide open to engage with it.

Whatever it is I hope we don't end up "selling out" for a higher market share. KDE is proof that you can have stability while also having infinite configuration options. Gnome seems to be openly hostile to any other way of doing things that isn't the gnome way.

I don't mind gnome existing but it isn't for me and I hope I don't get forced into using something that I can't modify to meet my workflow wishes. I'm seeing a lot more programs being written without prioritizing being desktop agnostic. I think we can forge our own path making a desktop that is both as stable as Mac OS and as approachably configurable as Linux should be.

As an ML and speccy dorkface, the "nobody bullies my brother but me" behavior fits us, but I agree that the ML should also be the speccy dorkface

Typical vegan, happy to kill a human to save an animal.