[-] MomsSpaghetti@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

You were right all along! It is a Google model, more likely Gemma 4, or another Gemma model, or some other Google model idk lol like you mentioned. I used a few AI text generators as examples and both confirmed to be language models trained by Google! So know we know the AI text plugin is using a Google-trained AI text model. I wish we knew the exact model

[-] MomsSpaghetti@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I think only that AI text generator was using DeepSeek through huggingface api, not the actual ai text plugin. I didn't mean to mistake DeepSeek as the default text model for Perchance, I agree with you, it does seem to be more likely Gemma for sure.

[-] MomsSpaghetti@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I found this in Elements tab from DevTools:

• "the text model is likely gemini model gemma4" (2d ago)

from https://perchance.org/ai-text-plugin

I didn't see it on the page, it was hidden. I don't know if it was from a comment or message (there was comment/message section) but apparently (if its an actual person who written it and not hidden text in code LOL) else believed it was also using Gemma 4. The other AI text generator I must've been using more likely used an external source (Huggingface and Deepseek, according to Network, seem like strong indicators)

[-] MomsSpaghetti@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

And the fact it said the cut off date was Jan 2025 and it kept insisting it was Google makes me believe Perchance is actually using Gemma 4 or other Gemma models.

[-] MomsSpaghetti@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You may be right about it being Gemma 4! And it might be possible for Perchance to allow multiple AI text models, whether through the plugin or custom coding (idk lol). I have seen some text generators using supposudly using different models from apis but I don't know if its actually true or not. I suspect that https://perchance.org/ai-character-chat might not actually use Perchance's text model plugin. Based off of what you asked/instructed/prompted, it may be very well possible its Gemma 4, especially Google releases their AI text models as free and open source, so I'd least be a little surprised that's what the ai text plugin was using LOL

And I am even more convinced you might be correct because I found this on Google's website:

Earlier versions of generative models were only able to process 8,000 tokens at a time. Newer models pushed this further by accepting 32,000 or even 128,000 tokens. Gemini is the first model capable of accepting 1 million tokens.

https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/long-context

Which sounds similar too what your AI said

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submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by MomsSpaghetti@lemmy.world to c/perchance@lemmy.world

Fact #1:

The Perchance text models, or at least AI Character Chat, uses the DeepSeek model api. A reminder that DeepSeek is free and open source!

Fact #2:

Its been said that the new AI art model Perchance AI art image generators uses Flux. My preferred AI art image generator strongly implies this is true. Interestingly, the AI generated images still mentions Perchance uses Stable Diffusion despite being claimed the AI model is currently Flux. I tried looking into the text-to-image plugin page for any mention of Flux, couldn't find any mention.

Edit #1: New Image Model Notes seems to officially confirm the new AI art model is indeed Flux, specifically FLUX.1-schnell (well, based off of FLUX.1-schnell). I don't know when that page was created, though.

Edit #2: Page was last modified on Wednesday, May 22, 2024. So, its unknown if its still FLUX.1-schnell. More likely another newer and more improved version of Flux.

Edit #3: This post from the forum,

spoiler(TRIGGER WARNING: NSFW)
FLUX Chroma (The Perchance T2i model) , claims the AI art model is Flux Chroma, although I don't know if its actually true or not. People on Reddit seem to mention its either FLUX.1-schnell or Chroma. I am only familiar with Stable Diffusion, so I don't know all of that LOL. I can tell the difference between Stable Diffusion 1.5, XL (yes I am leaving out 2, its very unpopular tbh), and 3.5 (Ig) but not Flux whatever models.

But I do know this: I have used different Stable Diffusion models and the current Perchance AI art model enough to know the current AI art model isn't Stable Diffusion. The current AI art model produces images much differently. The quality and rendering looks far better than some vanilla and custom/mixed Stable Diffusion models.

~~I won't say how I even found out this information but just wanted so share some facts I discovered LOL~~

Jk, it was through Google DevTools LOL

[-] MomsSpaghetti@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, its working for me now too...well, it did earlier so migration is nearly or fully completed I believe...

[-] MomsSpaghetti@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

My guy, this website is ran by ONE dude. Sure, he could hire more people, but this is obviously not that kind of website. This isn't some big corporate company, this is a community/user-driven website. You also have to consider the costs and resources. The dev may not have or make enough money to implement stricter safety features right now. He is paying for everything out of his own pocket. We are talking about paying more money just to add more safety features from a single developer. The best thing he could do is add a report button, at least for now. But when you are one person, running community/user-driven website for free, and allowing thousands of users to create and upload their own generators...Yeah, its not very feasible or effective for a website like this.

[-] MomsSpaghetti@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I have never ever shared these with anyone. But since you do need help with getting the prompt to give you what you actually want, I'm willing to share it with you but not in public. I refuse to share it in public because god who knows what would if I released it released...But, anyways, my method doesn't work 100% of the time but for the most part, it gives me what I want.

[-] MomsSpaghetti@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Ahhh, I see someone needs help with the image generator getting to understand the prompt...I could help with that...I have found found my ways for getting the image generator to understand the prompt the way I want it too but I am too afraid of saying it here...and there is a reason why I keep my methods/techniques to myself...but I can show you the results you want with my method (once the image generators get back up and running).

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Hi @perchance@lemmy.world, any status update for the Perchance website? Some of the generators seem to be down, as well https://perchance.org/generators. I know you were migrating servers but I just wanted an update on the status of the website. Quite a bit of people were noticing some of the bugs and instability from the website.

[-] MomsSpaghetti@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, that's what I've noticed too. I heard something about the servers possibly in the process of being migrated to new servers. But the website is pretty unstable right now. I am not sure when everything will be back to normal again...sighs Hopefully, Perchance will be unstable yet usable for sometime until the migration is fully complete...

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