[-] Lucalis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Same issue here, and for other people too.

[-] Lucalis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

had exactly the same issue

[-] Lucalis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

AI-Story-Generator is not countinuing a story.

Links to related posts:

My Lemmy one. My Reddit one. This one has images.

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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by Lucalis@lemmy.world to c/perchance@lemmy.world

So, this goes like this:

Up to yesterday's morning, I was creating this story with total normalcy. As I have lunch and then try to continue it, it just won't generate text. As I'm on my phone, I can't analyze it, so I change to my PC.

Once on my PC, I get to analize it, and this are the results.

It literally just randomly decides not to continue the story. It has no special characters, no odd phrasing, no thing at all that could be messing with the system, and it just won't continue it.

It's not a matter of length, I have longer stories that work just fine.

The system is just not generating text.

I have multiple screenshots and can even upload the story if anyone wants to do a test.

Extra: here's my post on reddit, with a lot more of images detailing the issue

[-] Lucalis@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Hello, with all due respect, AI Story Generator is totally terrible right now.

Right now the model is straight up nonsense, ingoring the whole plotline, outputting texts that has just no correlation to the previous ones, jumping scenes without being told to, or refusing to change a scene and follow the new one, etc. It ignores already existing context and details, also makes characters know things they very clearly should not. A few months ago it worked relatively fine, even with the new AI being sometwhat bad at storytelling, now it's plainly dumb, ignoring the user, and even totally senseless.

[-] Lucalis@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Hard agree, text model for AI Story Generator is totally terrible.

I have stories from years, and right now it's just straight up nonsense, even ingoring the whole plotline or outputting texts that has just no correlation to the previous ones. It jumps scenes without being told to, or totally refuses to change a scene and follow the new one. It ignores context and details, and makes characters know things they very clearly should not. A few months ago it worked relatively fine, even with the new AI being sometwhat bad at storytelling, now it's plain dumb and even senseless.

[-] Lucalis@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

it’s much smarter and doesn’t need me to hold it’s hand for every little detail

Maybe Im the unluckiest guy ever, but on my end, the AI just hallucinates whatever it wants when I do something with a character. I MUST be actively guiding it to obvious things, and it still just completelly ignores it, something never happened before

[-] Lucalis@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

having done references to politicians and celebrities, it does. Though, some things like historical events seem to be censored. The only difference with the old model in that sense is that the new one knows of things happened more recently, but I'd bet its knowledge ends in 2022 or 23

[-] Lucalis@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

THIS!

Dude, giving context is not useful when the AI straight up ignores it! And for me it's worse, you all mostly use the character chats, I use the story generator and it becomes AWFUL. It gives out senseless phrases, doesn't completes phrases when you use the TAB, interrupts characters each 5 words making non-sense dialogs, completely ignores the context, straight up gives sentenses unrelated to the story, doesn't knows when it's on a dialog and when it's not, can't comprehend an idea when it's plain obvious, doesn't follows the narrative style, lacks any idea of what happened 3 paragraphs ago.

In the name of god, please give us the old model back. Please.

[-] Lucalis@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I don't have as much experience with character chats, but the old model was perfectly capable of handling fictional characters. I mostly use it for story creation, and the decrease in narration quality is stagering

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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by Lucalis@lemmy.world to c/perchance@lemmy.world

After having used the new model for over a month, mostly on AI Story Generator, and investigating on the old and new AI models used, I've reached to a conclussion that, in m opinion, makes sense.

The old model was Llama 2. Llama 2 (and Llama 3) are models feed on books, as in lots of literature. Meta licensed a LOT of them to train the models.

The new model is Deep Seek, or at least it seems to be so. We'll assume it is, but to be fair, it doesn't changes the argument a lot. DS has an issue, it is trained on normal content, say: internet, some books obviously, interations, etc.

Now, what's the issue with this?

Llama is a model that knows WAY better how a story works, having hundreds of them on its dataset and having processed them during its training. DS doesn't, DS is a more generalist model, thought more as an assistant than a story creator.

For the kind of usage done here, essentially either chatting with characters with AI-Character-Chat or writing a story with AI-Story Generator, the improvement in context and general knowledge DS gives is not worth the decrease in narrative quality, and understanding of story writing. That's not mentioning all the hallucinations, total ignoration of context and prompting, and similar the new model has.

Llama 2 is a way better option for the kind of usage we have. Yes, we would be lossing some general knowledge. Yes, it may not be the best AI model out there. But it's all things considered, it's a matter of chosing the best option for our use case.

I understand the dev does all this work alone, and appretiate his effort for it. That's why, as a really active user of this platform and service, I consider the best choice here is to return to the old model.

If you have some argument more for it, please add it in the comments. Thanks everyone for your time.

-Lucalis.

[-] Lucalis@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

fr. I tried to give it a time, but for now, while it compherends anime references better, it's not fucking worth the downgrade. I'm on the same position than a month ago, I'd rather use the old model.

[-] Lucalis@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah, the new model is really bad.

[-] Lucalis@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I agree with this.

I use AI Story Generator a lot, and the decrease in quality is astronomical. It doesn't just stopped behaving properly like it should, it loses or ignores the context, it hallucinates, sometimes it confuses a start of a phrase like "Steps:" and instead of doing something with it related to the history, it spits part of its internal prompting/code. I have more than six histories I'd love to continue, and now I can't, because it just doesn't behaves like it should, and works totally different. For worse, it doesn't even adapts to the narration style you're using, it wants to write like an stereotypical AI does (repetitive phrases and a lot of "—"), and not like the history is being written.

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