i didn't say there's no hunger in america. i said there's no starvation. you keep misrepresenting my position. i can respond to you from earlier but i blocked the sub we were in because i don't like meme subs, i prefer subs that have more text and it was spamming my feed.

Now look up deaths from exposure and please try to understand why housing for all is also necessary.

i don't think anyone thinks housing is bad or that people should die from exposure. the question is how do you plan to fix homelessness and things like that when more people die of exposure in europe than america which is generally touted as the area with the solution to the problems. i'd be okay with a government housing program that provides shelters and living for people at a bare minimum and then allow people that make more money to buy more extravagant living spaces, but we kinda already do that. it could be expanded and made easier to apply and get accepted to but that's a separate issue.

It’s simple, the Palestinians live in territory that Israel wants to take over

i mean, israel says there's a security threat. if mexico was firing rockets into the US the US would have military presence in there too. i don't know much about settlements or whatever, but it seems like you're not looking at both sides of the situation

and they’re flattening it all and killing civilians. They are murdering women and children. They are bombing hospitals and schools, they are sniping kids for fun. We have video.

not according to the civilian to combatant death ratio. every war has war crimes though. can you name me 1 war that didn't have war crimes committed in it?

We have statements of intent to exterminate them all, whether they are Hamas or not.

there are extremists but that is not the israeli governments position nor is it anywhere near the majority of israeli's position. it's a tiny minority, almost so minute that it's not even worth mentioning, like worrying about racism by the kkk in 2026.

i thought when they said housing for all they were referring to government mandated housing. im all for making houses more affordable, but that isn't really the same as houses for all. even if it's more affordable there's still going to be people that can't get a house of their own

if israel wanted to kill arabs why is 20% of their population arab? why target palestinians specifically and not arabs in general when they are the same race? what differentiates palestinians from other arabs to where israelis only want to kill palestinians but are fine in living in peace with their 20% arab population in israel?

i mean, you could say the exact same for the civilian deaths and damage to infrastructure when the US was fighting ISIS. at the end of the day they did a terrorist attack and said they were going to do it again, are harboring weapons, and are right at israel's border. they clearly have capability and intent because they fire rockets at israel all the time. what is israel supposed to do, let them fire rockets at them and not fire back? not destroy the munitions they keep in hospitals? all the deaths and the destruction of the infrastructure can be blamed on hamas, not israel. and i'm not claiming hamas does have the capability of global domination, if they did they would've done it. i'm saying they have that intent, just like ISIS did. are we supposed to not destroy them until they gain more power and do have the ability to be a threat to the world?

actually you have it the opposite. the israeli goal is to eliminate hamas (the terrorists) and live in peace and hamas's goal is the extinction of jews and then most likely global domination of islam as a whole.

no the israeli number is 1:1 and the independent sources say anywhere from 5:1 and 8:1, 8:1 being the highest estimate that i've seen. i take a middle ground between the israel number and the independent sources because it's impossible to know the exact number during an on-going war and you have two sides giving two different numbers. clearly there are two very different methodologies to get two totally different numbers and during an on-going conflict it's impossible to know who is right. but you're coming at this from a premise that israel is genocidal maniacs which is showing a bias, when the reported numbers are what determines whether they are genocidal maniacs or not. but personally, i would say even with the worse case number from people who have a bias against israel it is not genocidal.

when you fight a war who is the terrorist isnt determined by the number of people killed on each side, it's determined by the intentions of the people doing the killing. for instance, when the US went after ISIS it's estimated that between 10,000 to 27,000 ISIS were killed and only 30 US people were killed.

everyone has a right to defend themselves but the civilian to combatant death ratio is anywhere from 1:1 at the lowest to 1:8 at the highest, probably realistically 1:3 or 1:4 (normal for war). israeli does not just murder children in the streets, they are fighting a war that has civilian casualties and the numbers show that.

im confused where did the israeli soldiers admit to targeting civilians?

im all for free palestine in terms of ending the occupation, (though i think it will lead to worse outcomes and more violence, i think they should still be given that right) but in terms of the war against hamas im 100% for it and i think israel should neutralize hamas. but when most people talk about "free palestine" they mean stopping the gaza war, but i have no problem with killing terrorists.

medicare for all- good (private healthcare can still exist but a government option should be available), college for all- sounds good but has problems, housing for all- how? i think you should have to work and pay to own your own house. 32 hour work week- good, (could be even shorter), tax the rich- good, green new deal- no idea what that entails, free palestine- bad.