@Dazza There are legitimate concerns about using cluster munitions but Ukraine is well aware of the problems they create. And unlike a 3rd world country like Vietnam, they will be better suited to mitigate those threats post-war. In the meantime, none of this matters if they lose because Russia will kill half of them anyway after the war.

@Dazza So, leave the war in Ukraine lop-sided so we can absolutely ensure that the majority of those killed are Ukrainian civilians instead of Ukrainian civilians AND Russian soldiers? What kind of sense does that make?

@zephyreks 😂 You poor thing. Just can't let it go. Bless your heart.

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@zephyreks What exactly did the countermeasures contribute to if it wasn't collecting to begin with?

@zephyreks Dude, you're a fucking idiot. Here's the press release from the Pentagon where Brigadier General Pat Ryder says exactly what I've been pointing out.... that US countermeasures certainly contributed to the balloon not collecting any information. So there you have it, from the official Pentagon press release by the same guy I've been telling you about repeatedly but you refuse to believe. 🤡 https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript/Article/3444912/pentagon-press-secretary-air-force-brig-gen-pat-ryder-holds-a-press-briefing/

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@zephyreks You work for the Pentagon? I notice that you've made that claim twice without any reference material to justify your claim. But sure, if you feel the need to impune the character of a US Brigadere General and esentially call him in a liar, I know who I'm going to trust and it's not your word.

@zephyreks dude I don’t know any other way to explain it to you so that you can comprehend it. The balloon was trying to collect information and was thwarted. You have it from a brigadier general that mitigation efforts certainly contributed to the balloon not collecting any information. You can try and act like it was just not collecting information out of the goodness of the Chinese’s heart, but that is a blatant misrepresentation of fact.

@zephyreks Here's another one for you then. See if you can comprehend what Brigadere General Pat Ryder is saying...

"Ryder was asked Thursday whether he believes those U.S. mitigation efforts were responsible for the balloon's failure to gather any info.

"Certainly, the efforts that we made contributed," he said."

https://abcnews.go.com/US/chinese-spy-balloon-american-made-parts-transmit-data/story?id=100476856

@zephyreks You could only be seriously confused about where I get my "impression" from if you're an absolute idiot considering I included the link to the BBC article where I got that "impression".

Yeah, we agree that it was not collected. But, you keep leaving out the part about where they tried. Make sure you put that in your talking points next time. They tried but failed. Ergo, they did not collect any intelligence.

@zephyreks There you go again. You're either blatantly trying to mislead people or you're an idiot.

"But "it has been our assessment now that it did not collect while it was transiting the United States or over flying the United States".

He said the efforts the US took to mitigate any intelligence gathering "contributed" to the balloon's failure to gather sensitive information."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66062562

@zephyreks ...but it wasn't from lack of trying... the countermeasures the US used kept it from collecting any sensitive intelligence. That's the part you propagandists keep leaving out.