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We love Amtrak (lemmy.ca)
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[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago

damn it, I hate it when I get entertained while being advertised at.

[-] Firefly7 11 points 1 year ago

To be clear, this tumblr account is in no way associated with the actual Amtrak company

[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Sure but advertising is advertising no matter who it comes from.

And whoever wrote that "ad" up there is kinda clever & a marketing genius.

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[-] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 year ago

Amtrak is pretty pricy though. I'd love nothing more than to pop on a train for a leisurely trip, but it was astonishingly expensive to cover the same distance as a four-hour drive.

[-] Manalith@midwest.social 16 points 1 year ago

I've been looking at it for a roughly 5 hour trip and it comes out to basically the same price as gas most days of the week. The annoying part is that the departure is 2:00 AM and returning trip gets in at 5:30 AM. Assuming no freight train shenanigans

[-] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

Nice! I just checked Amtrak prices and it would be $180 for my wife and I to make a trip for probably $50-60 in gas.

[-] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

More money is spent each month on maintaining the roads in the United States than has ever been spent on passenger rail. If tax funding were reallocated away from roads towards trains the costs would reverse.

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[-] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

How is that possible? Trains are extremely cheap to run.

[-] Robert7301201@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 year ago

I would guess because Amtrak isn't being subsidized enough. A lot of government money is spent on building and maintaining roads. If the consumer had to pay for that directly in the form of toll roads instead of through taxes then Amtrak would be much more competitive.

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[-] Arbiter@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago
[-] aidan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Amtrak is government owned

[-] ThatFembyWho 5 points 1 year ago

The Rail Passenger Service Act of 1970, which established Amtrak, specifically states that, "The Corporation will not be an agency or establishment of the United States Government"

But indeed it is a special corporation that is not quite private, yet seeks profit. Subsidized by the government, it wouldn't be the first capitalist enterprise to rely heavily on government funding.

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[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It shouldn't be, but they've been handicapped on purpose so it costs more than it should, takes longer than it should, and goes fewer places than it should. It's not that it's rail that it has these problems, rather because the car and petroleum industries rule the US.

However, you do need to consider that taking a train prevents adding wear to your vehicle. You're not only paying for gas when driving. You're paying for gas, wear on your car, wear on tires, and also wear on the road, but that last one gets partially socialized across all people regardless of if they drive for some reason (some is covered by gas taxes).

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

We were shocked at the price of airline tickets recently, so we wondered if taking the train would be more affordable. It was actually MORE expensive. WTF?

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[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 year ago

I thought Amtrak was known for maintaining passenger rail with extreme reluctance?

[-] aeharding@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Nah Amtrak is awesome. They are just hamstrung by govt

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 year ago

Privatisation isn't the answer.

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 year ago

Oh I immediately thought hamstrung like how the education, healthcare, and mail systems are hamstrung by a government that refuses to invest in them

[-] aeharding@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah exactly, that’s what I meant! Everyone is ignoring the context of what I’m replying to. Amtrak needs more funding. But they do pretty good with what they got.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

They also need to be given priority over freight rail, instead of the other way around like it is now. Plus the super-long freight trains they're using unsafely mean they can't use existing sidings.

[-] Superduck50@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

My understanding is that passenger trains always had priority over freight. The long freight trains are their way around giving priority. Can't give priority if you're too long to give it

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[-] aeharding@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago
[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Okay! Seemed a little ambiguous. I hear people still claim that rail should be privatised because "the government doesn't know how to run a business".

[-] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

More like deliberately crippled by the private freight railroads that own the tracks. Ones that the government bailed out multiple times mind you, yet they're shamelessly resisting the government's attempts to provide a public service.

[-] asuka@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

...You think they'll choose to keep passenger lines running if they aren't forced to?

[-] aeharding@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I think they’ll expand in a heartbeat with more government funding

[-] arin@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Sad that we have the most wealth in the world but lost it all to corruption in politicians and company lobbying.

[-] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago
[-] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

"We" didn't lose it. We never had it. Boomers gave away our futures for us.

[-] TheControlled@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Rooting for Amtrak is rooting for an underdog. Ride the train, Murica. It's cool AF.

I'm sure someone has some articles of why Amtrak is cancelled or corrupt or something. Spare me, please.

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

We'd love it better if it didn't have to give rail priority to freight trains.

And I'd personally like to be able to put our (modified for wheelchair) car on it so we'd have it when we get as far as the train can take us.

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[-] GabrielBell12fi@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I actually have it on good authority that what women want is pockets.

[-] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago
[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

I wish I didn't have to drive two hours just to pick someone up from a train station lol. I'd love to have a serious passenger rail here in the states. It would mean I might could travel a little here and there, but mostly because of the benefits across the board for everyone.

[-] arin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I doubt our trains are half as fast, reliable, nor frequent as Japan or China

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

Well, sure, because we're not trying. Can you imagine what it would be like if we gave half as much of a shit about it as the interstate system? Or just full on fucking wasted half as much cash on it as we spend bailing out the airlines every other year?

[-] TheControlled@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Hot take! An afterthought of our transportation system sucks? WHAT?!

[-] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Something we spend basically no money on is worse when compared to a country that actively invests in it? What a bizarre coincidence.

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