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Schenker says that after his years in the service industry, he has watched tipping evolve into a major part of his pay.

"If there is some means of tipping that's available to you, that should signal to you that workers there aren't being paid enough," says Schenker. "Tipping is sort of an acknowledgment of that fact."

To Schenker, customers who don't tip are not understanding that businesses treat tips as a baked-in part of workers' wages.

"They subsidize lower prices by paying employees less," he says. "If you aren't tipping, you are taking advantage of that labor."

He was so close... Especially for someone who says himself does not make much money.

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[-] Nougat@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

selfawarewolves

[-] KombatWombat@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

People in the comments seem to think the barista likes supports tipping culture and resents customers who don't tip, but that's not the impression I get. He sympathizes with the awkwardness of the position and the tighter budgets people have, but nonetheless relies on tips for the meager amount they provide.

I hate tips as much as the next guy, but you should not protest by refusing to tip/undertipping in situations where there is a reasonable expectation of a tip. The only one who suffers in such a case is a low-wage worker. Rather, take your business somewhere without tips.

[-] ChexMax@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I think some of the issues people are having is that it's not clear where there is a reasonable expectation to tip. Sit down restaurant, yes. Hair dresser, yes. Dunkin donuts? They just turned around and gave me something that was already made. Do I need to tip on that? A pickup order? It seems like yes, but when I get Uber eats, I'm only tipping the driver, and that's still a pickup order. The convenience store where I bring everything I want up to the counter? Because the tipping prompt comes up there. I'm not sure where there is a reasonable expectation anymore and it's making me feel less financially able to be generous overall.

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[-] Nemo@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago

What is going on with the comments here? Tipping is great for the worker. It allows me to sell my labor directly to consumers without the ownership class taking a cut as middleman.

Frankly, I have to reemphasize what the author said: Not tipping changes nothing for the owner; it only exploits the laborer.

[-] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago

Ah the age old misconception...

Minimum wage is the minimum for everyone, by federal law. The employer can only pay less if wage + tips < minimum wage. And that shit is pretty heavily enforced.... when reported.

Problem is, it's in neither the employer nor the employee's interests for you to know this; they both prefer blaming the customer.

There are other minimum wage jobs that are not tipped. Servers and stuff whose wage is the minimum should accept that minimum wage, ask for better pay, or fight for the minimum wage to be increased (for everyone), instead of trying to guilt trip the customers into paying them more.

[-] Nemo@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago

Servers don't typically blame the guests or have an adversarial attitude towards them. The ones that do don't last. The bulk of any adversarial attitude, at every place I've worked in the two decades I've been waiting tables, is directed at management. Tables sometimes stiff us, but mgmt are the ones out here setting shitty schedules and commiting wage theft.

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[-] PlanetOfOrd@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

With inflation happening across the economy, businesses have been dealing with rising costs for years. At the same time, there's a lot of pressure to keep prices low for increasingly price-conscious customers.

Yup, pretty much.

A business is there to make money. Obviously, businesses that pay employees better have lower turnover and higher employee satisfaction. But what do you do if the price of keeping the lights on goes up? You can either increase prices, which will see fewer customers, but keep in mind that customers will just go to a coffee shop that's cheaper. So the better option is to keep the prices the same and lower employee wages.

Business are feeling the pressure of our failing economy. Are some being jerks about it? You bet. I even worked for some. But I believe in a truly wealth-equal economy people are so well off jerk employers are just ignored.

But most people currently don't have that choice. Quit an employer and you have a 50/50 chance of getting a job within a few weeks or ending up on the streets.

But I believe we can get to a more sustainable economy. It might take a lot of effort, but I believe we can get there!

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