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China mandates that AI must follow “core values of socialism” (www.theverge.com)

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China has released new guidelines on generative AI services, limiting their public use while encouraging industrial development.

Reuters reported the Cyberspace Administration of China (CAC) softened its stance compared to draft rules in April. These new interim regulations will take effect on August 15th. The guidelines only affect organizations offering generative AI services to the public. Other entities developing the same technology but not for mass-market use do not fall under the measures.

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[-] Nevoic@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago

"core values of socialism"? Like reintroducing landleeches after they were outlawed? Like allowing the bourgeoise to own the means of production and exploit the over a billion working class Chinese people in horrible conditions? Using the profit motive to "incentivize entrepreneurship"?

China is the epitome of SINO, they're an authoritarian capitalist regime.

[-] Lilium 15 points 1 year ago

Crazy how people think they're communist when the state owns much of the means of production and has no interest in handing it over to the actual proletariat. It's state capitalism. They literally have the second highest number of billionaires in the world.

[-] Dan@casavaga.com 5 points 1 year ago

Focus on creating revolution in your country before you go telling other people how to run their experiment.

[-] Nevoic@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

I didn't tell anyone how to run anything, I pointed out how they're an entirely capitalist nation that pretends to be socialist. Maybe the current authoritarian regime will suddenly revert all the market reforms they've implemented over the last 3-4 decades, seize the means of production, and then dissolve the state when it's no longer needed.

I don't believe this will happen, and I don't think many people do. Most of the "socialists" that support China are more than happy with the bourgeoise class existing and exploiting working class people "for the betterment of the State". This kind of thinking falls much more in line with Mussolini than Marx.

[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That is literally a quote I would attribute to Stalin.

And during his worst purges too.

[-] orphiebaby@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, if I could start my own egalitarian nation, I would, bud. Until then (and even after), I and everyone else has the right to criticize anything we want.

[-] LollerCorleone@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago

Will CCP also start following the core values of socialism now?

[-] GodOfThunder@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

Maybe get your country to have a higher democracy index than china before criticizing them?

https://www.newsweek.com/most-china-call-their-nation-democracy-most-us-say-america-isnt-1711176

[-] LollerCorleone@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That is a perception index and not a democracy index. It is purely based on what the surveyed people said about their government.

If you ask most in China anything about the government, they will only say good things and deny anything else, because doing otherwise could result in them getting 'disappeared'.

As the survey report itself says:
"In authoritarian countries, positive perceptions might result from different conceptions of democracy, high levels of government satisfaction, or fear of speaking out against the government." I am betting on the latter.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Whataboutism

[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Xi should be great at socialism, according to the paradise papers he's one of the richest people on the planet.

[-] ZombieZookeeper@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

The CCP should do so first.

[-] theinspectorst@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

ChatCCP

[-] jerrimu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Chatgpt already identified a socialist.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

How much should I charge for this item?

I am sorry but as a socialist AI language model...

[-] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

We'll know we've achieved AGI when the robots start engaging in leftist infighting.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Splitters!

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

ComrAIde

[-] Dan@casavaga.com 3 points 1 year ago

Fantastic

[-] carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Is the state ideologically consistent enough to train AI to follow its ideology?

[-] little_cow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

China considers it self to be so as the Modern CPC follows Xi Jinping thought which is defined by wikipedia as:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xi_Jinping_Thought

"Xi Jinping Thought consists of a 14-point basic policy as follows:

Ensuring Communist Party of China leadership over all forms of work in China.
The Communist Party of China should take a people-centric approach for the public interest.
The continuation of "comprehensive deepening of reforms".
Adopting new science-based ideas for "innovative, coordinated, green, open and shared development".
Following "socialism with Chinese characteristics" with "people as the masters of the country".
Governing China with the Rule of Law.
"Practise socialist core values", including Marxism–Leninism and socialism with Chinese characteristics.
"Improving people's livelihood and well-being is the primary goal of development".
Coexist well with nature with "energy conservation and environmental protection" policies and "contribute to global ecological safety".
Strengthen the national security of China.
The Communist Party of China should have "absolute leadership over" China's People's Liberation Army.
Promoting the one country, two systems system for Hong Kong and Macau with a future of "complete national reunification" and to follow the One-China principle and 1992 Consensus for Taiwan.
Establish a common destiny between the Chinese people and other peoples around the world with a "peaceful international environment".
Improve party discipline in the Communist Party of China

In economic matters, Xi Jinping thought highlights the historical importance of state-owned enterprises."

[-] CodeMonkeyDance@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Oh, how clever of them to try and make "Socialism" popular again.

[-] CodeMonkeyDance@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Oh, how clever of them to try and make "Socialism" popular again.

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