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[-] SteveTech@programming.dev 83 points 1 year ago

I'm probably jumping to conclusions, but Nvidia?

[-] bali10050@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago
[-] x2XS2L0U@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago

I explicitly bought an AMD CPU and GPU and did not have any trouble with both of them ever since

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[-] marilynia@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago

God, nearly every time I Google a problem I have, it's NVIDIA. The rest is that I want to share my steam library from my windows-installation on a NTFS drive

[-] EccTM@lemmy.ml 50 points 1 year ago

Nvidia Arch user here, are you just forgetting to rebuild your kernel modules after a kernel or nvidia driver update?

You can just add a pacman hook that triggers mkinitcpio -P after the linux or nvidia packages are updated. I've never had a no-GUI situation from a stray update... maybe one or two that were my own doing when trying to set up UKI's though.

[-] Dhs92@programming.dev 21 points 1 year ago
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[-] EddyBot@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago

The Arch Linux team releases Nvidia updates at the same time as kernel upgrades which should trigger a initramfs rebuild via mkinitcpio anyway

unless you do a partial upgrade anyway (never do that)

[-] Dnn@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I just followed the note that's mentioned on the top of your link and installed the Nvidia driver as dkms package. I originally did that because of trouble with a new driver version and temporary downgrading is much smoother with dkms.

Also never had issues with the DE starting properly after upgrade since then.

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[-] Takios@feddit.de 49 points 1 year ago

Me looking from openSUSE Tumbleweed:

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[-] PainInTheAES@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

Just learn how to do everything in the TTY. GUIs are bloat

[-] bali10050@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

I already did, but wobbly windows is my love!

[-] otacon239@feddit.de 21 points 1 year ago

Somebody needs to make a wobbly terminal

[-] squid_slime@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

Magnet on the side of my CRT ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜

[-] davidgro@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Both wobbly and colorful

[-] bali10050@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I like this idea, great and cost effective tought!

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[-] bali10050@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

If that comes out I'll buy a wobbly monitor, with a wobbly keyboard to make the set complete

[-] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

You don't have to wait, just use LSD...

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[-] herrvogel@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Don't bother with the tty. If experienced chess players can play entire games in their heads, why can't you just do the same to use a computer? Just type away and use your superior power usering skills to visualize the output in your head.

[-] PainInTheAES@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Thanks, now I'm running Quake on my brain.

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[-] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

When the rolling release is a rolling release: D:

[-] siha@feddit.uk 16 points 1 year ago

When bleeding edge bleeds: ยถ:

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[-] RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I want it rolling in updates. Not rolling into the river and drowning itself.

[-] Titou@feddit.de 23 points 1 year ago

What did you edited ? Arch user here, never had this kind of issue. Also if you managed to install Arch, you should be able to fix it(maybe you switched from terminals, try ctrl+alt+1-9)

[-] Nisaea@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 1 year ago

You were just lucky. For some of us ut was just about having the wrong hardware at the wrong time.

Not complaining, I knew the risks going in and still love my distro, but arch updates totally can brick a PC with no PEBCAK involved. It does happen. :3

[-] Titou@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

Arch dosn't break by itself, i've used bunch of Arch installations and every time it broke it was because of bad manipulation, not pacman -syu

Arch DEFINITELY breaks itself. See the whole "arch update broke grub" dilemma

[-] Titou@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

Have you tried it or are you just spreading misinformation ?

[-] SkyeHarith@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Arch breaking grub has happened to me twice. Second time I couldn't even recover the install.

You learn a lot of good practices by using arch, eg a separate home partitjon, git repositories for your config files, maintaining a clean package tree etc. Installing Arch is also really useful for noobs like me to learn some Linux basics.

I use Fedora, btw.

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[-] Nisaea@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was among one of the grub fiasco victims. Thank goodness they rolled it back pretty fast and I knew how to chroot.

I have not experienced it but half of the arch users on reddit seem to have experienced it. Also it's not a continuous problem but rather a problem with a certain arch and grub version. However the fact it happened once (to many people) means it can happen a second time

[-] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A grub breaking thingy happened to me too.
I was saved by having multiboot, with every OS having their own GRUB version installed. (just selected one using the motherboard's interface)

The problem occurred when, after pacman -Syu, I read notes in the output, one of which hinted I would want to update GRUB and went - "Sure, I'll try the new GRUB update" and ran GRUB update.

When it didn't startup after a restart, I just used the debian's GRUB to login to the OS in question, downgraded GRUB, reinstalled GRUB and then ran pacman -Syu again.

I feel like mine wasn't the problem instance that goes on around the web, mostly because:

  1. None of the mentioned fixes worked in my case.
  2. I feel like people won't go out of their way to update GRUB most of the time.
[-] guskikalola@social.vivaldi.net 5 points 1 year ago

@Titou @Nisaea Well, in my case it once broke due to a conflict between pahole and nvidia that caused errors. Games would crash every now and then. I was going crazy until I found that the update broke nvidia :}

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[-] SkyeHarith@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sounds like a skill issue. Some people just donโ€™t know how to use Arch.

Signed,

Someone who has spent more days reinstalling Arch than using it.

[-] bouh@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Why are you using arch Linux if not to debug your system though?

[-] excitingburp@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

There's a difference between "can" and "want." For example, OP might have been planning to watch his home vids with your mom, but couldn't due to a rolling update.

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[-] carzian@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

Can I talk to you about our Lord and Savior Tumbleweed?

[-] JoMomma@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Funny because just like those door to door bible sales, Tumbleweed promises magic and salvation, but completely crumbles under any stress or expansion

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Not my experience at all. It's the one distro that stopped my distro hopping.

Besides, something goes fucky or (more likely in my case) I fuck something up, I can just roll back the changes with a single command and reboot. It's awesome. I've also used to just test things out, removed all KDE stuff, installed GNOME, tested it out for a while and then did a snapper rollback. The system was just like I hadn't changed anything. It's really cool, more distros need this feature.

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[-] bali10050@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Last time I tried it, the more custom stuff I put on it(custom color scheme, window decorations etc.) the more it fell apart

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[-] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 15 points 1 year ago

Join the NixOS side! I almost never get a broken boot, and if I do, I can always rollback and debug my config when I have time.

[-] samajgaya@feddit.rocks 5 points 1 year ago

Just curious before distro-hopping.

What functionality does the reproducibility of nixOS serve to a user (like me) with only one desktop. Like I won't be installing the same system multiple times, I understand the 'predictable-ness' of a declarative system. But are there some other advantages?

[-] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 5 points 1 year ago

I find it useful to not have to remember how I set things up when I last touched it months ago. You can do really ricey tweaks if you want to, without worrying about breaking the whole system, or having to set it all up again if you have to reinstall.

I work in Devops, so being able to track my system in git is insanely useful for maintainability.

The fact that NixOS has fearless bleeding edge is just a plus; Being able to install the latest packages before Arch even gets them, without worrying if something will break.

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[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

well arch moment, you could use snapshots or ostree to rollback if something like that happen

[-] bali10050@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I usually just do a full reinstall, it's faster, requires less storage, and it's more futureproof. I have my home folder at a different partition, so the files aren't a problem. Archinstall made this a lot easier, and i love it.

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[-] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

As long as I can get into the terminal I can fix the GUI. What really sucks is when it something that runs in the DM init sequence was using Python but a Python upgrade changed the import path and no it keeps restarting and I need to boot from a USB to disable that service so I can log into something and properly fix it.

[-] adavis@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Pass something stupid via your bootloader so it aborts boot and dumps you in an initrd busybox shell. No usb required.

This was my poor man's boot environments when I was using zfs on root. I had a pacman hook to snapshot before package transactions, then if it became unbootable I'd interrupt the following boot attempt, edit my grub command line with something wrong so I'd get dumped in the busybox shell, import my zfs pool and roll back before finally rebooting again.

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[-] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 8 points 1 year ago

It's the second time sddm broke for me in the space of a week

I just disabled its service for now and am launching plasma manually.

Speaking of -- Plasma 6 hooray!

[-] Wilzax@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Time to switch to NixOS!

[-] sirico@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago

๐ŸฆŽ Tumbly bumbles

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