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[-] Plavatos@sh.itjust.works 30 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

A Christian is like a little boy who really thinks Sky daddy is his actual father, that a literal virgin woman can give birth. But as he grows up, he realizes he can control a woman via her "duties". But in his pride and hurt for believing in a mystical diety with no proof he maintains this absurd position, dismissing science and using excerpts from the Bible to sustain his delusion. That is until he deconstructs.

Christians aren't dumb. They just don't know sky daddy doesn't exist yet. They just refuse to Acknowledge the Bible is stories written by man, instead believing in some twisted version concocted to line pockets of preachers and push vile political policies that control people not like them.

[+] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

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[-] KidnappedByKitties@lemm.ee 29 points 8 months ago

It might be the viewpoint of some atheists, it's not really a unified thing, it's just the position of questioning if there is a god.

It is also a poisoned straw man of a religious mind, deeply dishonest and manipulative.

In the case of the deadbeat father, you can look around and see that most other children have two parents, and you can reasonably conclude that you should too. When looking closer you'll notice that not all children have fathers though, and with even further study you'll learn that some children don't even need a father (IVF only requires a donor, cloning not even that), and you can reasonably conclude that you probably had a father, but can't never be totally sure.

In the case of the god claim, we've never seen any god, nor anything needing a god, and upon closer study, we even find that there's almost no room for a god to act within. It's not just that it's a deadbeat god, no one has ever seen any god, nor evidence or need of one, and that's where the oop position becomes delusional.

We have however found many mechanisms for which the mind would like to invent a god, we can even reliably make a mind invent a god, and we've also found many god claims to have been disproven. If you'd met a person who'd been provably wrong on every important point they've ever claimed, would you believe them to be right about the next claim? When would you start asking them to do the homework to prove their claim before listening to the next one?

[-] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

There's a relatively little-used term that perfectly describes you: apatheist. Someone who doesn't care enough to make a decision about how they feel about religion. I'm mostly in the same boat - I just simply have other things I need to care about more

[-] KidnappedByKitties@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago

This is actually already covered by the term atheist. An atheist is simply someone not convinced there is a god, regardless of reason.

Agnostic is a weasel term and literally means "without knowledge". Formally it means that you are convinced, but can't provide justification. A brilliant term for times when not believing would get you lynched, but language has evolved in the last couple of centuries.

[-] Axiochus@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Dunno if we really need more terms. Agnostics don't necessarily care a ton about the decision.

[-] stinerman@midwest.social 1 points 8 months ago

I am an apatheist because if a God existed, I can't see how that knowledge would change my day-to-day life in any way.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 14 points 8 months ago

Pretty ironic position considering the entire religion hangs on Mary's parthenogenesis.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Classic religious projection

[-] EfreetSK@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

This as many other theist arguments fails by basically starting with assumption "Let there be God. Then ...". You can put it in front of it and it becomes obvious what's the problem.

The same way I could say "Let there be unicorns. Then a person denying their existence is just delusional"

[-] stinerman@midwest.social 9 points 8 months ago

Yes it's a riff on Descartes' "proof" that the chair in front of him existed by first having to prove that God exists.

God is a perfect being. Beings have to exist to be perfect, therefore God exists. This is classic question begging. Using this logic you can define things into existence. There exists a perfect Lemmy client without any bugs. The client must exist to be perfect, therefore the client exists.

[-] june@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

All things aside, an absent father is not a father. Maybe he’s a biological donor, but that doesn’t make him a father or parent.

[-] veniasilente@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago

Isn't that just Deism?

[-] Speculater@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Deism is the idea that something universally powerful put existence into motion then never interacts with it again.

[-] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

TIL I’m a Deist

[-] invisiblegorilla@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

Shutup babigens

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