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submitted 9 months ago by HowRu68@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

A weakening economy and increasing political repression are forcing ever more Chinese people to emigrate. Spurred by TikTok, many are seeking more sustainable conditions in the United States.

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[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 28 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The bravery and determination of these people is mind-blowing. I feel so lazy in comparison.

[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago
[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 months ago

Of course it is. I never said otherwise.

[-] Mac@mander.xyz 6 points 9 months ago

I'm guessing they're trying to say that you don't need to feel bad for having privileges that others don't. Acknowledge, yes, but you didn't choose the circumstances you were born into.

[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

That's exactly what I'm saying!

[-] harderian729@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago

Good! The more immigration the better!

I only wish we could have a stipulation that additional immigrants must live outside of major cities, so they can help revitalize America's dying towns.

[-] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 15 points 9 months ago

Ooh, interesting immigration policy: you can immigrate, but only to a rural area.

[-] harderian729@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Rural America is better than a lot of places in the world.

I'm sure many immigrants would be ecstatic to have the opportunity.

I live in a rural town (1 hour+ drive in any drection to the next town) and I could see this being a good thing if implemented correctly. This town isn't equipped for an influx of any people, but has vacant lots that could be turned into a variety of housing. There aren't a lot of jobs, but I would think more people would mean more things could be offered. Potentially great way to invest in rural areas!

[-] harderian729@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Heck yeah! Remember, the alternative would be these immigrants being unable to immigrate to the US!

If they would prefer to stay outside of the US rather than live in rural America, nobody is forcing them to come!

I was being genuine and said nothing about forcing people. It's an option to consider, but not one you will see when you lack compassion.

[-] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

I imagine they would; alas it gets a lot more complicated than that.

I'd like to see a renewed love for rural places generally, and especially in the developing world. There's so much potential there that I feel most people don't see.

[-] SmokumJoe@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

If you're white

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Oh we have a similar policy to that in Australia, it’s fucking awful.

New migrants have to uproot their lives to spend 3 years living in dead end towns with zero job prospects, it’s a huge career killer and ensures immigrants have less opportunities to advance compared to other Australians. It’s also a negative in their ability to form social connections due to the lack of people, or get help from ethnic communities who can share their experiences and knowledge navigating a new country compared to their previous.

But hey some shitty rural workplaces like abattoirs fucking love the captive workforce to exploit.

[-] harderian729@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

And I'm sure many of them choose it over their previous nations.

I don't get what you're trying to say here. It's better these immigrants don't get to immigrate?

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

What I’m saying is pretty fucking obvious.

That forcing them to go to rural towns is bad.

[-] harderian729@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Nobody is "forcing" them to go to rural towns.

They can choose to stay in their current nation or emigrate elsewhere if rural America is not good enough for them.

It's literally accepting people who otherwise would not be accepted.

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

Wow you’re so generous!

How about simply letting them live like everyone else instead of making them second class citizens with less freedoms just because they want to immigrate?

[-] harderian729@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Because America's towns are still dying and this is a way to revitalize them.

If rural America isn't good enough for them, they can stay in their current nation or try to move to a different one.

The alternative would be them not having this option. This is literally nothing but gain.

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

The solution to dying towns isn’t to force people to go die in them as well.

The alternative would be to let people in without such stupid requirements.

[-] harderian729@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

The solution to dying towns isn’t to force people to go die in them as well.

Literally not at all what I suggested.

Please argue in good faith if you want to be taken seriously by rational people.

The alternative would be to let people in without such stupid requirements.

If that's what you want, that's fine. I would prefer additional immigrants help restore America rather than leech off of it in a major city.

This discussion is over. You may have the last word.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

the article is veeery vague as to what "more" means, no actual data.

it tells the dramatized story of one person. why would a chinese travel all the way to the us when asia has plenty of countries to go to for a fraction of the cost?

also isnt china still seeing unprecedented growth? this article smells funny...

[-] HowRu68@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

the article is veeery vague as to what "more" means, no actual data.

From the article:

"From October through January, US Border Patrol agents registered about 19,000 illegal Chinese entries. During the same period in 2021, while pandemic restrictions were still in place, only 55 were registered. "

Sounds like more to me

[-] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago

Pandemic and non-pandemic is not a good comparison, specifically for those mentioned restrictions... they note it's the fastest growing group but link that statement to another article about Mexican migration, which had no Chinese info I saw.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

spurred by TikTok

what

[-] Nuerion@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

havent we caught like 2 or 3 chinese american spies recently ?

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The skin beneath Guo's pant leg is rubbed raw and, despite the bitter cold, he's only wearing dusty plastic sandals.

The remainder of his trek was via land, taking him through the Darien Gap, a densely overgrown rainforest that leads from Colombia into Panama.

From there, he ultimately arrived in Jacumba Hot Springs, a tiny California town of 600 residents located about 125 kilometers (75 miles) east of downtown San Diego.

Guo sat with his legs curled up in his arms on a plastic tarp he had laid on the ground to fight the cold of the desert morning.

Social media channels on video and messaging platforms display the best routes for getting into the US, giving step-by-step instructions, suggesting various modes of transportation, and even listing how much border patrol agents expect to be bribed in each country along the way.

The phenomenon of Chinese people entering the United States via the southern border has come to be described by the term "Zouxian," which can roughly be translated as "take the risk."


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[-] schizoidman@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago

This reminds me of the vice news video of Chinese dissidents aligning with the US far right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US0Rfav2qBA

Everybody thinks they are the hero of their own story.

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[-] Pussydogger@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

The Chinese people need our support, can we open up the flood gate and fly them in!

[-] Sl00k@programming.dev 1 points 9 months ago

There's was a surprisingly great 6 minute video from CNN done on this in January.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/08/americas/china-us-migrants-illegal-crossings-intl-hnk-dst/index.html

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