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Christian Horner cleared of inappropriate behaviour (www.thetimes.co.uk)
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[-] Knasen@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago

What are all of you insinuating in here? I always offer people that accuse me off wrongdoing £650,000 even tough I didn't do anything. It's nice to share with others. end sarcasm

I would guess it's a "prid pro quo" situation in all honesty, they where both grown adults and lead each other on. Wrong? Perhaps not. Innocent and not on the edge or extramarital? Absolutely not. Unlawful? Probably not.

Bury it and move on.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/f1/news-christian-horner-reportedly-offered-650-000-settle-sexual-misconduct-investigation-launched-red-bull

[-] MasterHound@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago

While it's suspect on the surface, offering a financial settlement is a very common tactic in regards to avoiding backlash, regardless of whether you are actually guilty or not. Now I'm not saying for a second that him being cleared must mean he is innocent, but the money being offered really isn't evidence of any guilt like you'd think it would be.

[-] Alto@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago

Yep. People tend to forget this a lot. Even if a story is entirely false, the damage it can do before anyone figures that out is usually far higher than whatever money they offer up front.

[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 15 points 9 months ago

Does this go towards the costs cap? Sorry Perez, no new frontwings for you, Horner has been horny again.

[-] essteeyou@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

"We investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong"

[-] Alto@kbin.social 9 points 9 months ago

I mean, they hired a third party investigator for it. Short of FOM or FIA hiring someone themselves (which doesn't really have any less of a conflict of interest), there's not a whole lot else that could've happened.

[-] essteeyou@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Yeah, they hired them and claimed their impartiality. I find it hard to trust the impartiality of a company being paid by one of the parties involved.

[-] Alto@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago

Again, there's not realistically not much more that they could have done. Anyone hired for it is going to be paid for by either RBR themselves or FOM/FIA. There's always going to be that specter hanging over it regardless.

[-] alienangel@sffa.community 5 points 9 months ago

To put it another way, the investigators are going to be hired by someone who has an interest in the proceedings. Either the alleged victim, or Christian Horny, or RBR or FIA, or the tabloids. If essteeyou@lemmy.world is that interested there is nothing stopping him hiring his own investigators too. The only difference is the degree of cooperation from the people being investigated your investigators will get based on who hired them.

[-] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

People here really seem to have wanted Horner to be cannoned for this.

[-] bhmnscmm@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

I don't really get people still being convinced he's guilty and saying this is being brushed under the rug. Has it even been confirmed what he was accused of?

People read some unconfirmed gossip articles and think they know the guy and all the facts of the situation. Is there any evidence the independent investigation was a sham?

[-] omgarm@feddit.nl 7 points 9 months ago

Looks like he didn't board the plane to Bahrain for nothing!

[-] Microw@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The statement released by both Red Bull GmbH and Red Bull Racing reads:

"The independent investigation into the allegations made against Mr Horner is complete, and Red Bull can confirm that the grievance has been dismissed. 

"The complainant has a right of appeal. 

Red Bull is confident that the investigation has been fair, rigorous and impartial. 

"The investigation report is confidential and contains the private information of the parties and third parties who assisted in the investigation, and therefore we will not be commenting further out of respect for all concerned. 

"Red Bull will continue striving to meet the highest workplace standards."

[-] SatouKazuma@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

This reads like a sweeping of the matter under the rug. Am I shocked? No. Disappointed? Absolutely.

[-] Microw@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

Someone already called it an "Austrian solution", which is a phrase used in Austria for the kind of compromise that's bad for everyone involved. Lol

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