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[-] uis@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

or even a Matrix service would mean a deterioration of our data protection standards

Why? They use same algos, same scheme. Just add support for matrix message format in your app.

[-] a1studmuffin@aussie.zone 11 points 1 year ago

WhatsApp is closed source, and obviously it must be able to decrypt messages for the end user to read them. Anything could happen to the unencrypted data at this point. Therefore it's less secure allowing conversations to flow into that app.

[-] uis@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Re-read my comment please. I'm talking about Matrix, not whatsapp. Not downvoting because you are correct, but it is out of context.

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[-] eco_game@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

I believe Matrix doesn't have nearly as strong (if any) metadata encryption as Signal

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[-] THE_MASTERMIND@lemmy.today 8 points 1 year ago

Threema seems to solve a problem signal has that is it does'nt need a phone number to open account . But i haven't used any of them so can't say . (If anyone wanna know i use telgram foss which is a debloated fork of the original client)

[-] RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Doesn't signal now have username support? I thought i saw it released a week or so ago.

[-] THE_MASTERMIND@lemmy.today 4 points 1 year ago

That doesn't solve the issue that you have to give them a phone number to start an acc.

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[-] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Me neither lol

[-] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago
[-] f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

With Signal's default settings, Google reads your Signal messages when they come in through push notifications.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Edit: For those in doubt, last year, I started seeing content-aware auto-reply options in my Signal message notifications; that is not a function of Signal, but a function of Google's Android. One could escape it by using a de-Googled Android like Lineage or Graphene, or by hiding the message content (which is not the Signal default) and would surely hurt Signal's adoption, when you have to unlock the app to read each message.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/cybersecurity/governments-spying-apple-google-users-through-push-notifications-us-senator-2023-12-06/

[-] vox@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

that's not how push works. usually, google would only know you received a notification, but not it's contents. that "dummy" notification wakes the app up, which decrypts and shows the real notification.
content aware stuff runs entirely locally on your phone, so no data is sent to google (unless you have telemetry enabled, in which case the reply or action you used will be sent to google together with the next telemetry data upload)

yes, some apps actually push the content directly through the push system, but that's not how this is handled in most apps that handle private data in notifications.

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[-] akilou@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Both Signal and Threema can now theoretically ask Meta to open access for basic messaging interoperability

Why is it a one-way thing? Would Meta ever be in a position to force Signal to interoperate?

[-] Not_mikey@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Maybe eventually, it has to do with market share and if the service is a "core platform". Signal doesn't have enough market share to warrant it yet, even iMessage wasn't forced to since it's not that popular in EU. The law was mainly targeted at WhatsApp as that's THE messenger in the EU.

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