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A Florida high school required parents' permission for students to watch Disney's 'Tangled,' prompting some to say local education laws are 'out of control' (www.businessinsider.com)
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One parent said the influx of permission slips is getting "out of control" and "burdensome."

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 121 points 1 year ago

This is fucking insane:

"I had to sign a permission slip for my child who could drive himself to see it in a movie theater," Judi Hayes told the outlet.

Parents like Hayes said they must sign a new permission slip for after-school programs and events almost every week.

"It seems like it's just it's out of control. It's every single activity. And it's burdensome on the staff because they have to chase down permission slips. The club's sponsors are getting frustrated and giving up because it's too much work," Hayes said.

Hayes added that she even had to sign a form so her child could receive pre-calculus tutoring with their teacher after school. The teacher referenced the Parental Rights in Education law in notes to parents explaining why they were being asked to sign a permission slip.

Just apart from this being a completely irrational way to go about things, can you imagine how much time this takes up for everyone involved?

[-] djsoren19@yiffit.net 103 points 1 year ago

Welcome to a world where everything in school has to be okayed by every parent, else they risk losing their job if someone complains.

Conservative fucks are gonna try to make this the future of public schools, because the inefficiency is the point.

[-] 800XL@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago

Exactly. The party of small government has one goal. To make government buearacracy so big and slow you throw your hands up in frustration and not participate. So then they can come in and saw only they can fix the mess they created and only make it bigger.

[-] Countess425@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Aha! The only solution to this endless waste of bureaucracy is privatization!

[-] 800XL@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Which then contracts out the service to the gov't for the same price, cuts the service down to the easiest bare minimum, manages to screw that up while gov't takes the blame, requires double the money from the gov't to hire a ton of labor since the service is vital, gets huge profits from taxpayer money while providing nothing, gets service barely operational, calls it a success, charges gov't more, fires most of workforce, starts charging taxpayers monthly separately on top of gov't contract, adds fees, never touches service again, uses ill-gotten double-dipped tax payer money to lobby gov't for anti-competitive regulations so no other companies can "innovate" and provide features that existed for a century when the service wasrun by the gov't.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Yet another reason I'm glad this state has a public online school program that I could put my daughter in. No permission slips ever. Even if they do have an (always optional) "field trip," it involves a parent taking them to a location and staying there with them.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

this state

Are you actually in Florida?!

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Nope. Indiana.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

"See how inefficient the government is? Education needs to be run by private companies."

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Think of it in terms of staff salaries versus the taxes used to pay them. If you can get people to consider that, they'll suddenly want to be the party of small government again.

[-] ULS@lemmy.ml 68 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As a kid that grew up with parents that were prudish.... It will fuck your life up. Completely. Entirely.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

It's interesting. My mother-in-law isn't what I'd call prudish, but she definitely restricted what her children could watch in terms of things like R-rated movies.

My father, on the other hand, was a film historian who, despite that, didn't really understand what movies were and were not appropriate for kids, which is why I saw Aliens in the theater when I was 9 years old.

We spent a long time butting heads over how far I wanted to go with my own daughter in terms of age appropriateness vs. how far she wanted to go. I eventually won that battle when my daughter turned 12 and my wife realized that there was no way to hide the world of R-rated things from a 12-year-old with YouTube anyway.

And that's why my daughter's favorite movie is now Forbidden Zone.

[-] ULS@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Haha, haven't met many that know that movie.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

She loves cult movies and so do I, so we watch a lot of them together.

[-] ULS@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I love the class room scene.

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

Eh, part of the rating system is to prevent you from fucking up someone else’s kid, and part of it is knowing your own child.

You’re not allowed to sell an R movie to a 10 year old, for instance. But their parent can come in and buy it for them no problem.

And honestly, just because a movie is rated R, doesn’t mean your 10 year old can’t handle it. You likely know your kid best. But you also know that while they can handle Aliens, they shouldn’t watch Zach and Miri Make a Porno for obvious reasons.

It’s a balancing act that only works if the parent is paying attention though.

[-] spiffy_spaceman@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I still feel bad for the 1 kid in jr high whose parents refused to let him do the sex ed section. 13yos are assholes enough, they didn't really need something else to use to make fun of him for.

[-] Spaghetti_Hitchens@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yep. I loved going to the library while my classmates got to watch a movie

[-] Tronn4@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Tangled? Or being with prudes? Jk

[-] ULS@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well these days it's probably either or...

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

yes. forever

[-] Lojcs@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why not a permission slip in the beginning of the year with checkboxes for everything that might need a permission slip. Is there a requirement for them to be specific?

[-] flipht@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago

The requirement stems from knowing that if you aren't explicit and specific, regressives will try to ruin your life directly and via stochastic terrorism.

[-] Patches@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

But also even if you are explicit and specific, regressives will try to ruin your life directly and via stochastic terrorism.

[-] flipht@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Facts. But it explains why they're trying. It's really hard for most people to accept and act on the knowledge that these people operate in bad faith and are just trying to make everyone miserable enough to give up.

The only way to win is to 1) not play their game and 2) to get a critical mass of people around you to follow you instead of them. It's like dealing with a narcissist, except there are millions of them bolstering each other and gaslighting the rest of us.

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago

“Yes I checked the ‘movies rated from G to T’ box, but they played Strange World, and that has the gay disease in it!” /s

People are idiots, and it’s Florida. Florida has proven itself insane, so this is why they get.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

You are really overestimating how far ahead these things are planned out. It would be a horrible nightmare to coordinate all of it months and months in advance.

[-] bitwaba@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It's 2024. We dont need to bring ink and paper into this. Publish your syllabus online at the beginning of the year, provide a list of everything that needs parental permission for viewing, let me check them check boxes.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

You have love how everyone is behind this until it becomes slightly inconvenient for them.

[-] JoseALerma@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

The way parents can stop this is by asking the school whether they had a license from Disney to show the movie.

The permission slips are just proof they showed the movie to a large group of people (most likely without a license, because what school has a budget for that?)

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This isn't actually public exhibition because members of the public in general cannot attend. This is an educational purposes deal and is perfectly fine.

[-] JoseALerma@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

We're actually discussing educational purposes and fair use in this thread:

https://lemmy.world/comment/7787391

So far, the consensus is "probably"

[-] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I'm not in Florida, but can they sign a permission slip that just includes everything.

"I, _________, do give my child permission to sign their own permission slips."

[-] Tedrow@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

My kids school just has us sign a media permission slip once a year. Works great.

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I don't think that would cover the modern rage about anything parent

[-] Tedrow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Eh, I'm in Florida and so far it hasn't been an issue at my school. From what I'm seeing most of the outrage is bad faith anyway.

[-] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Probably not. The whole point is to bog down the education system.

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