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submitted 9 months ago by 0x815@feddit.de to c/europe@feddit.de

Weighted to reflect the population, 62% chose to rejoin, 35% to stay out while 3% were unsure or offering no opinion.

In the original 2016 referendum, the UK-wide result narrowly passed Brexit by 51.89%. At the time in north, 56% of voters had chosen to remain with 44% choosing to leave.

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[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 64 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Maybe lets use the opportunity to flip the script. Reunite Ireland and offer Scotland to join, creating the United Republic of Ireland and Scotland.

Then demand the UK to change it's name to Kingdom of England and Wales as a prerequisite to any negotiations with the EU

[-] Quittenbrot@feddit.de 28 points 9 months ago

The Celtic Union is a dream of mine ever since Brexit happened.

[-] EmrysOfTheValley@beehaw.org 6 points 9 months ago

Can Wales join you guys? We just too polite to England what we think.

[-] Quittenbrot@feddit.de 4 points 9 months ago

I'm neither Scottish nor Irish unfortunately, but I'd say the more the merrier!

[-] Ross_audio@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago

Wales isn't a kingdom. It's a principality of England.

Without Scotland it isn't a unity of kingdoms at all.

Edward I took over Wales while divided and it's been a principality of the English crown since.

If Scotland becomes independent it's logically back to "England" officially.

If England still has sovereignty over Wales and Northern Ireland one is a principality, the other a territory. Neither is a kingdom capable of forming a union of kingdoms.

Another name might be chosen but "United Kingdom" wouldn't be accurate anymore. If it stayed the same it would be an anachronism.

[-] EarMaster@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Forgive if I'm wrong (not a native speaker), but why does United Kingdom implies several kingdoms to be united. Couldn't it be a kingdom which united several previously independent territories?

[-] Ross_audio@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

This issue with that is Wales and Northern Ireland haven't been independent territories either.

England conquered them. They haven't voluntarily joined a union, they have been conquered.

Northern Ireland with "power sharing" meaning they cannot elect a democratic parliament is essentially is run as a colony. The only caveat being they do have seats in the UK parliament.

Wales is a semi-autonomous part of England with a local government having some say but no ultimate control should the national government decide against something. Again they have seats in the national parliament so they aren't a colony.

Essentially in any other place Wales would be just part of England, not a separate country. Not a separate territory as there's no significance to the border except a historical one.

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 2 points 9 months ago

NI has a very clear-cut legal option to leave UK and reunite with Ireland but Scotland's situation is a lot more complicated.

[-] paperemail@links.rocks 19 points 9 months ago

The Star Trek “Prophecy” might actually come true! :o

In all seriousness, it makes a whole lot more sense now that the consequences of Brexit are disproportionately felt by the population in the north.

[-] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The UK was hurt a lot, but we should not look down on them. Our Union lost a Member. That made us all weaker.

And if they ever want to come back, let us all put out our Hands and welcome them back. They don't need to be ridiculed, they suffered fairly the most from their actions. And it would take a lot of courage to admit they were wrong.

[-] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago

No, they chose to leave if the EU just welcomes them back what message does that show, that the Union is not just optional but you can hop in and out at will, that would be a terrible political move.

[-] derpgon@programming.dev 1 points 9 months ago

I just want back my Iceland grocery stores 😫

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