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[-] MsPenguinette@lemmy.world 91 points 1 year ago

“You mean to tell me that you have actual evidence of weapons right under the children you bombed?”

“Yes”

“Can I see it?”

“No”

[-] Lepsea@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago

"Seymour everyone accusing us doing genocide again!"

"No mom they're just Hamas"

[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

"We saw some weapons by that hospital over there though... Brb"

[-] ad_on_is@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

What's up with all these "Hamas uses Palestinians as human shields" arguments?

Are these some kind of propaganda bots, or are people actually that stupid to repeat each others bullshit?

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

If you are a Hamas and I am an IDF and there is a civilian in between you and me, then it is a shield that you are using to protect yourself in a cowardly fashion. I am allowed to kill you and if the human in between dies then that's your fault.

However, if you are a Hamas and I am an IDF and there is a fence in between you and me, then you are not allowed to ever cross the fence. Not even if your house is on the other side of the fence. That is doing a genocide against all Israelis. If you cross the fence and you hurt an IDF, then we are allowed to kill twenty five Palestinians. This is called the Dahiya Doctrine.

But also, if you are a journalist and you mention the Dahiya Doctrine, you are an antisemite and should be fired. If you are a jouranlist in Gaza then you are a Hamas and I can kill you. And I can kill your family. And I can kill anyone in your immediate vicinity, because they are human shields (see above).

These are the rules of civil engagement. If you do not respect these rules, you are an antisemite. And we can kill you for being an antisemite because that's fascism.

But if you're an antisemite doing a fascism in Ukraine, that's different. Disregard all of the above. In fact, strike it and reverse it. In fact, strike it and reverse it and you are a Russian bot. Also, please nobody ask about the banner on the Likud Party HQ.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This post is amazing thank you

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Someone not only payed for that banner to be made, but confidently decided to hang it. Amazing.

[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Even if that’s the case, Israel’s stance is to kill the hostages if it means killing the hostage taker. They’re so bloodthirsty they kill their own people.

[-] Glytch@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

They believe (incorrectly) that saying the civilians were used as human shields (they weren't) transfers the moral responsibility for their deaths to Hamas (it doesn't).

[-] Potatofish@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Who knows. Why are you repeating bullshit. The answer lies within.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's the only way they can justify the blatant murder of civilians and destruction of their homes and public infrastructure on anyone but Israel. Otherwise the only other argument to justify it is "they deserve it"

When it comes to human shields, the only independent verification back in 2014 (Amnesty link) is of Weapons (not rockets) hidden at a vacant school, situated btwn 2 UNRWA schools housing displaced people, by a Palestinian armed group.

The Guardian journalists had encountered a couple individuals in 2014 too.

HRW on Laws-of-War Violations 2009

Amnesty on Hamas War Crimes 2023

Yet none of those come remotely close to making hospitals and schools bombing targets. Even if all the IDF claims were true, that does not exempt those hospitals and schools as protected under international law.

While we're on the subject, let's look at how the IDF uses Human Shields including Children (2013 Report)

[-] Glytch@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

"Human shield" is a label that is applied to place the blame for civilian deaths on one's enemy. It a very useful propaganda phrase for painting your enemies(or anyone really) as inhuman monsters worthy of slaughter.

Citations needed recently did a very informative episode on the history and use of the phrase

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Are these some kind of propaganda bots, or are people actually that stupid to repeat each others bullshit?

I think it's both, usually at the same time. Brainwashed bot-people.

[-] alekwithak@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

¿Por que no los dos?

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"But what if...I were to commit atrocities and blame it on Hamas? Ho ho ho, delightfully devilish, Israel!"

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

No, it is the UN that is Hamas.

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

"Good lord! What is happening in Rafah?"

[-] Potatofish@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

No amount of memes will change the fact that the premise makes no sense. That's why they don't take off. It's not the number, it's because the content is sht.

[-] Jews4Palestine@lemmy.today 43 points 1 year ago
[-] Potatofish@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

As evidenced by your posts lack of traffic. But by all means, keep trying.

[-] Jews4Palestine@lemmy.today 43 points 1 year ago

It's doing fine for a 2 hour post. Stay mad Zionist.

[-] Potatofish@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Nah, I just dislike stupidity.

[-] Jews4Palestine@lemmy.today 36 points 1 year ago

Self-loathing isn't healthy.

[-] Potatofish@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

It must be the content that is Hamas

[-] 100_percent_a_bot@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Honestly there's no point in Israel pulling any punches now. Not getting rid of hamas now would just kick the can down the road and all of this will just happen again a year or two from now. People are already upset, might as well make it worth the bad press.

[-] NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago
  1. Blowing up innocent people isn't getting rid of hamas
  2. As long as there is injustice, even if hamas is wiped out there will be another group.
[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

GDF is doing great work explaining how we got here.

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