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[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 8 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


That's apparently changing a bit in Windows 11's 24H2 update, which Microsoft began testing earlier this month.

According to posts from a user named Bob Pony on X, formerly Twitter, the latest Windows 11 builds refuse to boot on older processors that don't support a relatively obscure instruction called "POPCNT."

For Intel's chips, it was added as part of SSE4.2 in the original first-generation Core architecture, codenamed Nehalem.

That effectively bars mid-2000s Intel Core 2 Duo systems and early Athlon 64-era PCs from booting Windows 11 at all, not that they officially supported it in the first place.

This means the change should mainly affect retro-computing enthusiasts who spend their days making YouTube videos in the "we installed Windows 11 on a potato, let's see how it runs" genre rather than users of actual systems.

No CPU manufacturer is including stuff like POPCNT or MBEC in their marketing materials, but modern Windows support is increasingly dictated by these kinds of features.


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[-] kylian0087@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

If you think about it. Rhel already killed of the use of older CPUs by requiring x86-64-v2 for rhel 9 and up. If you got x86-64-v1 you get a kernel panic and can not even boot the system. Dont get me wrong I love linux and use it anywhere I can.

[-] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

There is a difference between intel core processors and processors > whatever is 'needed' for w11 (10th gen?). Dont get me wrong, im ok with this change. A 2006 pc shouldnt run w11..

[-] kylian0087@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

shouldnt run imo is wrong. a PC from 2006 is more then capable of running windows 11 without issue. maiby need a bit of a ram upgrade but for some light work is fine. getting all the latest security updates is also a good thing with windows. the choice should be made by the end user if their device is powerful enough to run win11.

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[-] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 3 points 9 months ago

I think W11 should ideally run fine on a 2006 PC, but I don't think there's any reason to expect a computer that old to continue to get support. Still would have been annoyed if they had nixxed booting 4th gen or 6th gen, but that would be my fault for running W11 on devices without official support to begin with.

[-] mjhelto@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

So wait, doesn't the naming for their builds based on the year and whether the first half, or second half, of the year? How would they have a 24H2 if we're only in February of 2024?

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