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[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 184 points 8 months ago

I used to make jokes to juniors/interns like the above. Then I watched a junior start typing my joke in terminal, and I freaked out and stopped.

Sometimes I forget these jokes go over the heads of people.

[-] laurelraven 74 points 8 months ago

And this is exactly why I don't make those jokes to people unless I know very well they'll get it

[-] derpgon@programming.dev 30 points 8 months ago

I've seen frustrated senior start writing this. Sometimes it's just a different state of mind that pushes us over critical thinking edge into the void.

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 19 points 8 months ago

The same brain state that leads to chocolate milk mashed potatoes

[-] cows_are_underrated@feddit.de 8 points 8 months ago

Do I have to worry that I understand to what you're referring to?

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[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 39 points 8 months ago

Same. I was working on a help desk years ago helping another agent with a call where the customer was being ignorant and I sent him a message that said something like "does he want us to wipe his ass for him too?" (Not that exactly but in the context of the situation it would have been similarly insulting). Next reply I get from the other agent was "he said no".

😬

[-] flyingjake@lemmy.one 16 points 8 months ago

Yeah, you don't want toddlers learning gun safety the hard way

[-] XTornado@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago

I mean.... it's the best way to learn by being stupid and doing mistakes, but truly some mistakes are too much damage and does not help to learn or if we talk about other jobs can kill somebody.

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[-] ptz@dubvee.org 117 points 8 months ago

I love when cheaters fail to prosper.

Back when I still used Reddit, so many posts were just CS students trying to get other Redditors to do their homework for them. I don't think I ever came across any technical interview cheaters, but I'm sure there were some.

[-] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 70 points 8 months ago

I remember one interview I had with a candidate. It was for a database analyst position that required SQL.

The first round was typically a phone screen where I chat with the candidate, get to know them a bit.

Second round was code review. I asked them to do a SQL query that did x.

The queries were simple. The goal was to get the candidate to walk through the query.

I had one candid that, over screen share, wrote the query flawlessly. Then I asked them to explain what it was doing. The candidate froze.

I can get understand getting nervous so I moved onto an insert statement. I had them write one and then do another without using certain terms (often leading to a sub query).

Again, flawless. I asked what situations would you use one over the other.

Again, they froze. I started to get suspicious that they were cheating and had them, instead of typing the answer, say the answer. When they couldn't, I knew enough that it wasn't going to work.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 34 points 8 months ago

I had an applicant very obviously read to me that Wikipedia article about Active Directory.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 20 points 8 months ago

Knowing how to quickly look something up isn't a bad skill. The problem is when that's all they do

[-] 0xD@infosec.pub 7 points 8 months ago

Sure, look up specific configuration points or architectures, but looking up AD is a bad sign.

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[-] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 21 points 8 months ago

I wonder why people do this. You wouldn't apply to a welding job if you can't weld. Why so many people apply to programming positions if they can't actually code (or a database analyst position without knowing SQL)?

[-] hulemy@ani.social 15 points 8 months ago

Some people seem to think you can just Google stuff or more recently use AI to do the coding, not knowing that being a dev is mostly about knowing what to search and that being a dev isn't just coding.

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[-] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago

A lot of the time I find "spot the bug" questions to be more informative, especially for junior roles. We stopped asking fizz-buzz - just about everyone has heard of it by now and it's pretty easy to just rote learn a solution. Instead we give them the spec for fizz-buzz and a deliberately broken implementation and ask them to fix it. If they get flustered, just asking "what does this program output" usually give a pretty clear indication if they can reason about code in a systematic way.

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[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 88 points 8 months ago

Did they execute the command on localhost or the remote? Because hey if they had privileges to root-nuke the target that's gotta count for something right? Lmao

[-] Lojcs@lemm.ee 87 points 8 months ago

How are you supposed to fine 7 vulernabilities in an hour anyways? No way they expect the applicant to actually find vulernabilities right? So you need to memorize a bunch and see if they are present, which doesn't achieve anything other than testing your memorization abilities

[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 97 points 8 months ago

How are you supposed to fine 7 vulernabilities in an hour anyways?

Threaten the interviewer with a knife until they give you at least 7 vulnerabilities. tapsheadmeme

[-] teft@lemmy.world 65 points 8 months ago

Once again proving social engineering is king.

[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

The biggest vulnerability is the user.

That being said, click this link to make an easy thousand dollars a day.

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 17 points 8 months ago

They always forget about the rubber hose exploit.

[-] fkn@lemmy.world 81 points 8 months ago

Using Kali? Easy if you have training. The capstone for our security course a decade ago was too find and exploit 5 remote machines (4 on the same network, 1 was on a second network only one of the machines had access to) in an hour with Kali. I found all 5 but could only exploit 3 of them. If I didn't have to exploit any of them 7 would be reasonably easy to find.

Kali basically has a library of known exploits and you just run the scanner on a target.

This isn't novel exploit discovery. This is "which of these 10 windows machines hasn't been updated in 3 years?"

[-] 0xD@infosec.pub 8 points 8 months ago

Just saying that running automated tools and identifying those vulnerabilities is just the first step to learning hacking, but nothing more. To gain a proper understanding you must be able to find vulnerabilities manually or at least understand a certain exploit such as ETERNALBLUE which you won't really look for manually.

[-] fkn@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Sure. But for an entry level interview as a pen tester... Scanning with Kali should be an easy task.

[-] laurelraven 40 points 8 months ago

It's going to be a system set up with known vulnerabilities that should be easy to locate using common tools already installed on Kali; a real world scenario should (at least in theory) not be that simple, but in a capture the flag pentest environment, that's pretty normal

[-] 0xD@infosec.pub 17 points 8 months ago

You can see that the first machine is at /dvwa which is the Damn Vulnerable Web Application and is made for practicing hacking. If you have a basic understanding of the vulnerabilities there finding 7 of them is easy peasy.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 9 points 8 months ago

mf wants you to work before even being hired

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

A taser and 7 pairs of handcuffs

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[-] mvirts@lemmy.world 49 points 8 months ago

Sometimes you get what you deserve

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 24 points 8 months ago

It's clear the kid wasn't up to the job. Why sit the interview?

[-] mvirts@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Probably didn't want to tell them to their face, provide a clinical facade behind which to judge them.

[-] TxzK@lemmy.zip 38 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The only time when doing this shit is acceptable

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 35 points 8 months ago

Hey, I know that princesses are ofter schooled in etiquette more than they get real education. unixqueen might not know shit about Unix / Linux. I find this completely believable, like how Queen Elizabeth didn't know dick about math.

[-] nifty@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Haha fair, I don’t know anything about this poster other than this meme they made, and I didn’t want to post without attributing the original source.

[-] SomeBoyo@feddit.de 26 points 8 months ago

What would happen to him if he where to miraculously pass the interview?

[-] nifty@lemmy.world 113 points 8 months ago

Months 1-3: hey he’s new, just getting used to things

Months 4-6: he’s not good, but maybe trainable?

Months 7-9: he needs to be on a PIP so we can CYA and fire him

Months 10-12: phase out and fire

Rinse and repeat at new companies every year for 5 years, get hired as Engineering Manager at sixth job.

[-] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago

Before you become a master you must make one thousand mistakes; some people choose to make the same ten mistakes a hundred times each

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[-] tallricefarmer@sopuli.xyz 21 points 8 months ago

this is very accurate

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago

please just kill me instead

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[-] CyberDragonCore@programming.dev 24 points 8 months ago

rm -rf /* This will not display warning messages.

[-] superbirra@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

not sure why you deem it necessary to point it out in this specific context, anyway yes, depending on system setup this definitely could show a warning

[-] superbirra@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago

the amount of ppl taking those shots seriously (more or less, everybody) is simply flabbergasting omg lol

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 23 points 8 months ago

atleast

Okay, you illiterate fuck, this I do for the planet and not for you.

[-] Urist@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Chill out. They may be German or something where shit like that is concatenated into one word.

[-] Enkrod@feddit.de 7 points 8 months ago

At least -> zu mindest -> zumindest

Checks out, +Comment+

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[-] prime_number_314159@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Did they run it with no-preserve-root? Is Kali so old it doesn't have they protection? Did they just see the command in history on a perfectly fine system, and decide never to hire on that basis?

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