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‘Enshittification’ is coming for absolutely everything::The term describes the slow decay of online platforms such as Facebook. But what if we’ve entered the ‘enshittocene’?

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[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 288 points 9 months ago

A link to an article about enshittification that's just a solid paywall....

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[-] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 141 points 9 months ago

This would be a meme by itself:

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 57 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

SIXTY NINE EUROS PER MONTH HOLY FUCK

EDIT SEVENTY FLIPPIN FIVE USD

[-] rambaroo@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago

Financial times has always been always expensive AF because it's made for rich investors.

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[-] csolisr@communities.azkware.net 64 points 9 months ago

And not just any paywall, a NINETY-NINE CANADIAN DOLLARS PER MONTH ONE. Granted the first month is a single dollar, but still, that's a grand total of C$1090 A YEAR.

[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah, it's $75 USD a month. Who the fuck do they think they are charging that much? I get 1Gbps internet for less than that. That's 2 weeks worth of groceries. That's YouTube Premium, Disney+, Netflix, and Max combined.

Absolutely no way an online news outlet is providing even close to a quarter of that $75 in value.

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That's 2 weeks worth of groceries.

I would be lucky to get a week off of that. If all I ate was instant ramen and stovetop pasta for every single meal, I might be able to stretch it to two weeks.

Absolutely no way an online news outlet is providing even close to a quarter of that $75 in value.

The outlet is called Financial Times, and—if you think about it—they certainly do an excellent job in helping individuals manage their finances correctly. After seeing a $75 charge on my bank statement from a news outlet, I would never forget to cancel another promotional subscription again.

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[-] gibmiser@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago
[-] GluWu@lemm.ee 13 points 9 months ago

Old people pay the $1 because of course, then forget.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago

Which does answer the question very succinctly.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

Not just a paywall, but a cookie dialog taking up more than my whole phone screen, where you have to click into it to “reject all” (and it doesn’t reject all), just to get to the paywall

[-] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 9 months ago

Nothing wrong with paying for content? Enshittification is about something different than just being expensive or bad.

[-] csolisr@communities.azkware.net 23 points 9 months ago

Paying for content: fair enough

Paying almost A THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR for content: barely worth it

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[-] aeharding@lemmy.world 106 points 9 months ago

‘Enshittification’ is coming for absolutely everything

Subscribe to unlock this article

[-] laurelraven 26 points 9 months ago

Unintentionally brilliant

[-] daed@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

Dude, I was trying to deal with the fucking Fullscreen cookie popup when the subscribe to unlock bullshit popped up and I just closed it immediately

Couldn't send that point home any harder

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[-] Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz 74 points 9 months ago

The irony of clicking on this link and getting hit with “accept cookies” “Subscribe to unlock this article”.

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[-] VonCesaw@lemmy.world 71 points 9 months ago
[-] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

"See? Look!"

This article brought to you by the ultimate enshittifier of news, the Financial Times. The reason's in the name!

[-] Abnorc@lemm.ee 17 points 9 months ago

They really meant it!

By reading this comment, you consent to cookies btw.

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 70 points 9 months ago

I'm fine with whatever term we decide means "capitalism fucking sucks". If we need some new term to escape the current terms that bind folk's minds all up against their best interests then enshittisication is better than many

[-] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 55 points 9 months ago

Enshitification was coined by Cory Doctrow specifically for the tech space, because the tech space is uniquely poised to constantly shift and tweak a service-based product to manipulate users, creators, and the paying customers.

I call this enshittification, and it is a seemingly inevitable consequence arising from the combination of the ease of changing how a platform allocates value, combined with the nature of a "two sided market," where a platform sits between buyers and sellers, holding each hostage to the other, raking off an ever-larger share of the value that passes between them.

https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/

This is on top of the normal problem of greed. Now I didn't read the article because it is pay walled (go figure). Is this article actually drawing a correct comparison to the definition of enshitification above, or is it just lazily ascribing the phenomenon of greed to that word?

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[-] PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world 52 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The tech world is going downhill fast. Anything that isn't currently obtainable through only foss means isn't going to be attainable by the average person for much longer.

The tech things most people currently enjoy will soon become entirely unaffordable to anyone not made of money. Anything that you aren't willing to switch to an open source alternative for, prepare to learn to live without it.

I even self host my own music streaming. I never had a streaming service, not even in 2012 when Netflix was all the rage. I don't even own a windows compatible pc. I don't even know what modern ms office looks like. I use my home network more than I use the actual internet just about.

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[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 50 points 9 months ago

Enshittification = Corporate Greed

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 36 points 9 months ago

It's one of many expressions of corporate greed.

[-] Debrox@lemmy.world 49 points 9 months ago

"Subscribe to unlock article." Oh, the irony. 😂

[-] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 47 points 9 months ago

Now, the enshittifiers aren’t taking this lying down. Take Lina Khan, the brilliant head of the US Federal Trade Commission, who has done more in three years on antitrust than the combined efforts of all her predecessors over the past 40 years. The Wall Street Journal’s editorial page has run more than 80 pieces trashing Khan, insisting that she’s an ineffectual ideologue who can’t get anything done. Sure, that’s why you ran 80 editorials about her. Because she can’t get anything done.

I love when other people realize the value of Lina Khan. I'll vote for Biden for the sole reason to let Lina Khan do good work!

[-] NutWrench@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago

If a service becomes shitty it is almost always due to corporate greed. It usually starts with data-mining your subscribers without their knowledge or consent. Then it moves on to making the service itself worse by introducing advertising and making changes to the interface that forces them to VIEW those ads instead of the content they came for.

[-] TengoDosVacas@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago

I often wonder: can we start over? Like, can we just do MySpace again?...or have another YouTube that's like before Google bought it? If we hate how tech bros have destroyed the fun, is there a way to redux the pre-tech bro wonder years?

[-] tiramichu@lemm.ee 58 points 9 months ago

I mean, you're on Lemmy right. That's what we're doing.

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[-] realitista@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago

Until governments get serious about trust busting, it will keep happening. Companies that don't have to compete enshittify.

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

Monopolies don't matter in this case. The market has been saturated. Nearly everyone pays for a streaming service; probably 2 or 3. There are no "new customers" so all that's left is to squeeze existing customers even more.

Same things happened with Peloton. Pretty much everyone that would buy their products have and they're not buying a second bike or treadmill, so they introduced tiers of service. Pay more or you get fewer features.

This is what capitalism demands. Ever increasing profits by any means necessary.

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[-] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago

I really feel it now that Prime and Netflix have ads in the middle of their content.

[-] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 14 points 9 months ago

If everyone who complained about ads in Prime and Netflix canceled their accounts, then Prime and Netflix would be motivated to remove their ads.

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[-] AnActOfCreation@programming.dev 24 points 9 months ago

I actually thought the paywalled article was the meme at first.

Also shoutout Bypass Paywalls Clean (D). It's practically up there with uBlock Origin as required to browse today's internet.

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[-] Resol@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago

It was coming for absolutely everything since 2013 at least.

I will never forget the day when Creative Suite was no longer a thing. I will never forget the day when Apple flattened iOS. I will never forget the day when the Xbox One was announced.

Can you believe their modern products are basically a continuation of what they started back in 2013? This is why it's the worst year of all time.

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[-] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 18 points 9 months ago

I’m like 99% sure “enshittification” is just a code word for “capitalism”

*subscribe to unlock this article *

Make that 100% sure.

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[-] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

Corporate greed is ruining everything, as per... But hey! We have a cool edgy new tech term for it now!

[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

We just need to go back to paying for services. Free free free everything forever is not a sustainable business model. That’s why the big players just sell you to advertisers instead. And everyone is getting pretty grossed out about how much data that actually takes on you, so we’re passing privacy laws. Those laws mean these services can’t be free anymore.

Good. They shouldn’t be free.

[-] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Streaming services are paid and they are enshittifying just as fast as anything else, if not faster. No, it's not that we aren't paying enough and this is a desperate measure to make up for our neglect. This is corporate greed. Even when they have sustainable business models, that isn't enough.

Also, I worry how societal inequality might increase if the whole internet becomes subscription based, if people can't get informed or communicate without paying (more than their internet service, even)

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