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It's known that they are quite anti-semitic
I love it when isrealis reveal that they can't differentiate between their nationality and the religion
This is your brain on ethnostate
Israelis must seem like the perfect Russians in Putin's eyes.
That may be more right than you think since Putin had long had a stance of 'get the fuck out of my country if you don't like me' and Israel was and important destination for those who complied.
About 15% of Israel citizens seem to be russian speaking, because of emigration from the USSR and later Russia, see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians_in_Israel
Treating people badly because they happen to be from Israel isn't political commentary.
It's antisemitism, plain and simple.
You're doing it right now too! Antisemitism is hostility to, prejudice towards, or discrimination against Jews not Israelis. The reason why these players did not want to shake hands with the Israeli team is not because they are Jews, but because they are Israeli. Yes they are refusing to shake hands with them because they are from Israel but its not because they are Jewish. It's because their country (Israel) is comiting genocide. They would not shake hands with any country that does this
I bet they'd shake hands with the US team, despite the fact that the US killed 50x more Arab civilians in order to "defend their interests" on the other side of the world.
Holding Israel to a standard you don't apply to any other nation on earth IS antisemitism.
"Whataboutism" defined.
I am sure that if the US was killing as many, as fast, people wouldn't like them either. The truth is, Israel is killing more people than Russia right now and they are not popular either. Is that antisemitism too?
The UN says that since the start of the war, about 100,000 people in Gaza have been killed, injured or are missing.
What the fuck are you talking about? That's not why they didn't shake hands. They were accused of antisemitism by an Israeli player, who refused to elaborate, and that's the reason the Irish team refused to shake hands.
You didn't read the article obviously. And/or have an axe to grind
It's anti nationalist, your equation of isreali = semites is actually the bigoted statement.
The same behaviour was shown towards Russian athletes with regards to the invasion of Ukraine. Judging by your logic that would be, idk, anti-orthodox? Russophobic? It's symbolic and has nothing to do with the their opinion of the people they are competing against. It's not antisemitism, plain and simple.
If you'd read the article you'd know the Israeli team called them anti-semites first.
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So what was it when the US boycotted the 1980 Olympics? Just unmitigated, unfocused meanness?
no it isn't
oh yeah, that happens a LOT.
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Great display of standing up against false "anti-semitic" claims, when criticizing the politics of Israel.
~~The article unfortunately does not state who won...does anyone know? The BBC basketball section obviously doesn't, at least I couldn't find it there.~~
Edit: The article actually states the result. Israel won 87-57. :/
Says is the article "which Israel won 87-57"
I seem to have skipped multiple times over that information. Thanks and sorry BBC!
Its even in the TLDR summary..quite embarassing. 😯
It's true then, Jewish team was being discriminated because of their nationality but they won nonetheless because they are doing what God would've done too. Right? Right?? /s
Did the volleyball players kill Palestinian children?
In addition to what Squizzy said, Israel has conscription, so there's a very good chance these athletes are / were members of the IDF. So it is entirely possible that they did engage in atrocities against Palestinians.
It is inerrant to sport to be political. People are competing in teams based on political borders. Issues won't disappear because it's sport. It's socially here and teams take these with them.
Inherent*
If anything, sports serve as a distraction to the general public so that issues can continue to be ignored
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how am I supposed to understand this, what is the context here?
An Israeli player said "It's known that they are quite anti-semitic" and the entire irish team felt so offended by that that they decided not to shake the hands of the israeli team? To show them how unfounded the allegations are?
What are the details here? the article doesn't really say much
You too, seem to misunderstand the same thing that the Israeli team misunderstood. ~~Sweden~~ Ireland does not like what Israel is doing to the Palestinians. ~~Sweden~~ Ireland has nothing against Jews but does not like Israel's genocide on Palestine. There is a difference between the country and the religion and antisemitism is used for the religion alone.
It's like if you argue that you're getting downvoted because of antisemitism when you're actually being downvoted because you are wrong. It has nothing to do with religion
That's cool but we're talking about the Irish basketball team.
Sorry
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I can see how a lack of context could be confusing, but Irish leadership have condemned Israel's genocide in Palestine and compared it to The Troubles and other past conflicts between Ireland and the larger Great Britain. Basically, Ireland and Israel have poor international relationships because Ireland doesn't like the way Israel slaughters tens of thousands of people while starving out millions based solely on ethnicity.
This bad relationship has affected how the two sports teams interact with each other, and the Israeli pre-emptively insulted the Irish basketball association officials and team leadership before the match even began, so of course they won't be given bare minimum mutual respect when they show up to the matches in the future.
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We have to show that we're better than them and win.
I will edit comment, because it was poor taste and inappropriate, thus the responses
But still, this sounds at least the way Soviet sports teams were supposed to always be the best to prove a point of Soviets being best in everything. That's not how things work, you don't prove your point by beating someone, in sport or otherwise.
Now that is a fucking stretch. If you compare Jewish people with Nazis, don't complain when people call you an antisemite.
I don't agree with the other reply calling you an antisemite but that is still a huge stretch just to compare people to nazis. Have you never played a sport before
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Antisemitism is a pluge. Shame on Irland for this shit.
Critiscing the actions of the state of Israel does not equal antisemitism
Its not criticism to not shake the hands of Jewish people because Israel does XY
Good they got owned in the game.
Shame on you for not reading the article.
First the Israeli team insulted them as being antisemitic, obviously because Ireland stands with Palestine.
Therefore they refused to exchange politenesses in advance of the game.
It was the Israelis who started behaving badly. You know just like the conflict that didn’t start on October 7.
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Maybe read the article before you make inaccurate statements?
They didn't shake their hands because one of the players accused them of being antisemitic in an interview published on the team website
The volleyball team didn't kill any Palestinian children.
So how about don't discriminate against them based on where they were born?
You didn't read the story did you? They didn't shake their hands because one of the players accused the Irish team of being antisemitic. This was published the official team website
There doesn't seem to be any evidence though. It looks like the Israeli team made unsubstantiated accusations so you can't really blame the Irish team for reacting.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Ireland women's basketball team refused to shake hands with Israel before their EuroBasket 2025 qualifier in Riga.
Basketball Ireland said the comments were "inflammatory and wholly inaccurate".Ireland players also lined up for their anthem beside the team's bench rather than the centre of the court before the game, which Israel won 87-57.
The match, which was moved to Riga because of the ongoing war in Gaza, went ahead despite Basketball Ireland facing pressure to boycott the fixture.
Basketball Ireland's statement prior to the start of the game read: "Basketball Ireland informed Fiba Europe yesterday that as a direct result of recent comments made by Israeli players and coaching staff - including inflammatory and wholly inaccurate accusations of anti-Semitism, published on official Israeli Federation channels - that our players will not be partaking in traditional pre-match arrangements with our upcoming opponents.
"This includes exchanging of gifts, formal handshakes before or after the game, while our players will line up for the Irish national anthem by our bench rather than centre court.
"In an interview on the Israeli Basketball Association's website, United States-based student Saar said: "It's known that they are quite anti-semitic and it's no secret, and maybe that's why a strong game is expected.
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No, its the irish team refusing to shake the hand of the israely team, not the whole country, this headline is misleading. Also, wtf is the basketball team of israel supposed to do if their political leaders go ham? i dont get it.
Thanks for clarifying. The headline led me to believe that the team refused to shake hands with the entire nation of Israel, as is known to be the traditional pre-match arrangements of any game.
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