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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to c/reddit@lemmy.world

AccidentalRenaissance has no active moderators due to Reddit's unprecedented API changes, and has thus been privated to prevent vandalism.

Resignation letters:

Openminded_Skeptic - https://imgur.com/a/WwzQcac

VoltasPistol - https://imgur.com/a/lnHSM4n

We welcome you to join us in our new homes:

https://kbin.social/m/AccidentalRenaissance

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/c/accidentalrenaissance

Thank you for all your support!

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[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 302 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Argh, why make 2 communities? >_< Pick one damnit :D

I'm going to the blahaj one

Anyway well done for recognizing the ship is rapidly disintegrating.

[-] vinnythegooch9@lemmy.world 97 points 1 year ago

I was thinking the same thing, it's counterintuitive to the whole point of Lemmy lol

[-] Scanzy@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago

It's kind of a massive part of Lemmys design, so I would disagree.

We're going to end up with duplicate instances all over the place. That's just the reality of things. Some of them will become the more popular versions and others will be abandoned, but there's little point to complaining about it.

[-] vinnythegooch9@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Yeah I understand that duplicates will pop up from different people, just found it weird that they would create 2 separate ones themselves. It's hard to find which one to join when both are similar levels of active and I don't love the idea of having to subscribe to both and go to both if I want to see what's being posted. I assumed it was unfamiliarity with how the instances worked but didn't think about seeing if kbin or lemmy would end up being more popular, that does makes sense.

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[-] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

it's counterintuitive to the whole point of Lemmy lol

Actually no, it is not. Having multiple smaller communities works to the benefit of users in the Fediverse. One server might be down, and people in those communities can find another community on a different instance to continue discussion until the community of their instance choice comes back up.

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[-] Pamasich@kbin.social 67 points 1 year ago

I got a response from them on Reddit:

We didn't know which platform would take off, and we were nervous that because Kbin and Lemmy are so similar one platform might shut down in some sort of consolidation down the road. Also when we made them, each had very serious drawbacks for our media (Lemmy needs a lot of clicking to access the media, while kbin turned any media that wasn't in a 3:4 aspect ratio into a funhouse mirror.) So each of us took a community and somewhere down the line we'll re-evaluate.

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[-] TeaHands@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago

Given that one of those resignations talks about Beehaw like it's a separate platform entirely, I think it's just some good old fashioned misunderstanding. Looks like they've set up separate user accounts on Lemmy and Kbin too.

[-] discodoubloon@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

Now setting up separate user accounts isn’t a terrible idea…

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[-] sunaurus@lemm.ee 36 points 1 year ago

Yeah, kind of a strange choice to split like that. Are they intending to start crossposting to both communities?

[-] livus@kbin.social 57 points 1 year ago

Maybe they didn't realize lemmy and kbin can all visit the same community?

I subscribed yesterday. Will have to check which one it is!

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

This is most likely it. They sound like 2 different sites before you get here and realize how interconnected everything is.

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[-] I_Miss_Daniel@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

I'm sure eventually there'll be a means to merge them at the client end.

[-] sunaurus@lemm.ee 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The problem is that if you have two communities with exactly the same purpose, then that will encourage people to duplicate posts to both. This splits up discussions into two separate comment threads. Also, merging these communities at the client end will cause you to see any duplicated posts twice 😅

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[-] CommunityLinkFixer@lemmings.world 174 points 1 year ago

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !accidentalrenaissance@lemmy.blahaj.zone

[-] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 year ago

I love this bot

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[-] VoltasPistol 110 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh damn, that's us!!

We'd wondered where the nearly 1.9k subscribers came from completely out of nowhere!

So, yeah, a lot of people are hating on us for creating one of Kbin and one on Lemmy, but we had our reasons: Basically, neither handled images very well and we saw that these two services did basically the same thing and that typically leads to the weaker project getting cancelled down the line, so we decided our safest bet was just to make one of each, just in case it all ended in bad blood, de-federation, and a total loss of data. Better safe than sorry.

We might consolidate them later, but for now just pick whichever you like best. :)

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 year ago

Just want to say, "it's been swell, but the swelling's gone down" is a fantastic turn of phrase that I will be stealing

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[-] AssPennies@lemmy.world 91 points 1 year ago

That's pretty daring of them to do, they're risking their severance package by so publicly making their former employer look so bad. Oh wait...

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[-] OtakuAltair@lemm.ee 85 points 1 year ago

!accidentalrenaissance@lemmy.blahaj.zone for us lemmy folks

...why did they make two comms though when kbin and lemmy work together?

[-] Saneless@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago

Maybe because, like me, they don't understand the difference

[-] jiji@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

For your reference: for all intents and purposes there isn’t one. Lemmy accounts can interact and follow kbin communities and vice versa. You don’t need accounts on both, though you can if you choose.

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[-] OwenEverbinde@reddthat.com 85 points 1 year ago

For everyone who told us that they’d never taken a single art class and they could mod this place better with their eyes closed… Well, consider this a golden opportunity! It’s going to be tricky doing it with your eyes closed ever since Reddit’s painfully botched rollout of “disability friendly” mod tools in their disasterpiece of a mobile app has caused nothing but crashes and bugs, but you seemed so confident in the many (many, many, many) times you’ve expressed this opinion that we can only assume you know something about modding that we don’t!

Is such a fun line.

[-] OwenEverbinde@reddthat.com 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

test comment.
edit of test comment
edit from culprit browser
edit with only one add-on deactivated

[-] mercurly@slrpnk.net 34 points 1 year ago
[-] OwenEverbinde@reddthat.com 41 points 1 year ago

Oh my god that was annoying! But yes. Now, I am okay.

Firefox wasn't letting me post, reply or edit. I even dragged my home instance's moderator into helping me debug which I feel terrible about. (Especially because I originally described it as a federation error, only later realizing that the glitch was happening on reddthat as well as federated instances.)

After various debugging, he told me to deactivate my extensions... which I hadn't tried for some reason... and it worked. Deactivating my bionic reader extension fixed the problem. And now I feel like I've wasted my mod's time trying to debug something that he had no control over, but other than that? I'm okay.

[-] WhyAUsername_1@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

I mean.. Idk why.. but I love it.. imagining you pulling your hair out trying to troubleshoot this.. haha..

Been there done that..

Cheers mate!

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago

This is the sort of action I love to see. Reddit thinks they own the moderators who are working for free. They wan slaves. Fuck them.

[-] Pumpkinbot@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago

From the very start, ever subreddit should have challenged Reddit and called their bluff. Go ahead, replace the mods for thousands of subreddits. If a few dozen are changed, that's no problem. Whatever. But thousands? Good luck.

The whole protest seemed so half-hearted from the start. You don't go on strike with a set end-date in mind. You go on strike indefinitely until demands are met or a satisfactory compromise is made.

[-] OwenEverbinde@reddthat.com 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I will say that the short blackout was enough to get me onto the Fediverse. I didn't even use the apps that would be affected by the API shutdown, so I never would have noticed the controversy without the blackout.

But once the blackout was announced, I recognized how far reddit was willing to go in service of harvesting its users' data. And after that point, I just didn't feel good on the site anymore. (Granted, I first created an account on Mastodon because the people calling for blackouts never mentioned Lemmy. But still!)

Between Facebook's notification system repeatedly failing to direct me to comment replies, Twitter DDoSing itself, and reddit turning into the Eye of Sauron (which, again, I would not have even noticed happening were it not for the short protest), it seemed like the perfect time to exit the sinking ship of corporate social media.

Meaning they did something. Maybe they didn't avert the reddit apocalypse, but they still did something.

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[-] ItsWizardTime@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

I was saying this from day one, we aren't teachers or nurses or someone who may feel they owe society some information about their strike.

People literally could not promise to stay away from a website for a week. The strike should have been indefinite it was our chance to try and save it. Now it's lost to me.

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[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago

Feel kind of honored. One of the posts that the founding mod pulled over was a pic of my dog.

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/564838

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[-] M_whcddczcdc@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago

I'm so happy to see this community join us here, especially not being a mega-community with the same icon. We know the one on here.

I feel the more niche communities migrations will have a bigger impact. That something like politics or whatnot wouldn't. Like even Fuckcars is here, because Fuck cars.

[-] Gyella@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

I wish every single subreddit would follow suit.

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[-] kadu@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

Their heart was at the right place... But they didn't really understand federation huh. Splitting their communities like that is asking for less engagement and more user confusion. Just create it on Lemmy, interact with it using your Kbin user, and then it will federate and you can still provide the Kbin link if you so desire.

[-] Arcane_Trixster@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

It was intentional. They didn't 100% like either site so they made a community on both. They are seeing which they prefer after some use and development.

Everyone here is acting like they're idiots who don't understand the internet. They were high level mods.

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[-] Casmael@geddit.social 39 points 1 year ago

Welcome to LemmyVille it’s nice here we have

  • dietary advice
  • antique meme
  • screenshot
  • bean

I love accidental renaissance one of my favourite subs x

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[-] Tygr@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

This has been awesome. I’m finding out about communities I’ve never known about but starting with Lemmy to follow. Thanks Reddit for making all of the worst decisions all at once.

I REALLY like it here the most. After a couple weeks, I’m barely missing it over there (I really miss Apollo, not Reddit, thank you to Voyager for providing a similar experience).

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[-] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 26 points 1 year ago

It’s clear that people prefer Lemmy over Kbin, for some reason. Over 2k users in the Lemmy community vs. only 900 on Kbin.

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[-] Drop_All_Users@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

For those of you browsing from lemmy.world here is how to access it and stay logged in:

https://lemmy.world/c/accidentalrenaissance@lemmy.blahaj.zone

[-] systemglitch@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Okay, those are some mods I can respect.

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[-] CamelCityCalamity@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Test

😂 You all are funny

[-] ramplay@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago

{ 200: OK }

Comment came in loud and clear

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[-] tryagain@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago

I'm so fucking happy. I went looking for an equivalent Lemmy community only a couple of days ago and there wasn't really anything. But now here are the OGs!

[-] randint@feddit.nl 20 points 1 year ago

Great! I wonder if Reddit will forcibly reopen r/AccidentalRenaissance like they said in their press release during the blackout.

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