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submitted 1 year ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

As the Republican Party’s blockade of aid to Ukraine drags into its fourth month, the U.S. government under Pres. Joe Biden has found a clever new way to give Ukraine’s forces the weapons and ammunition they need to defend their country.

It is, in essence, an American version of Germany’s circular weapons trade—the so-called Ringtausch. The United States is gifting older surplus weapons to Greece with the understanding that Greece donates to Ukraine some of its own surplus weapons.

Greek media broke the news last week. According to the newspaper Kathimerini and other media, the Biden administration offered the Greek government three 87-foot Protector-class patrol boats, two Lockheed Martin C-130H airlifters, 10 Allison T56 turboprop engines for Lockheed P-3 patrol planes plus 60 M-2 Bradley fighting vehicles and a consignment of transport trucks.

All this hardware is U.S. military surplus—and is available to Greece, free of charge, under a U.S. legal authority called “excess defense articles.” Federal law allows an American president to declare military systems surplus to need, assign them a value—potentially zero dollars—and give them away on the condition that the recipient transport them.

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[-] Shadywack@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Reminds me of Charlie Wilson's war.

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[-] Subverb@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Let's spread weapons all over the world and cross our fingers that we get the outcome we want.

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the outcome we want

Profit.

Edit: lmao downvotes from angry capitalists?

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Moderate Rebels 6.0

[-] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 12 points 1 year ago
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[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Politically I want Ukraine to have aid but can we at least admit that the president using a weird tradesies loophole to provide aid that Congress has explicitly rejected...kinda sucks?

Sucked when Reagan did it, sucks when Biden does it.

[-] 7heo@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Let's focus on the fact that Biden is exploiting a loophole and going around policies, and not on the fact that those bigotry-motivated policies are very much risking triggering WWIII, on the ground that it is an "eLeCtIoN yEaR". sure.

Because if russia finally wins its invasion of Ukraine, they won't stop there, but we won't let them conquer the rest of Europe peacefully.

Besides, it's a well known fact, the context never matters, that's why we have dumb robots applying the laws to everyone without any context or interpretation rather than a complete, complex judicial system.

That way, if someone tries and commits suicide, lands on your car, killing themselves and making you paraplegic, you get charged with death penalty for killing them, the exact same way the driver of an armored SUV, charging in a crowd, blinded by hate, would get charged with death penalty.

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[-] Mamertine@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

What really sucks is that the Republicans are all towing the Trump line because it's an election year and Trump will make or break their campaign. Trump loves a good dictator and thinks he's buddies with Putin.

[-] rusticus@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Reagan did it through bad regimes - at least Biden is doing through democratic governments. AND they are weapons we'd have to decommission anyway. BIG DIFFERENCE between this and Reagan. Stop being disingenuous.

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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

At least this time it's for a good cause...

But wouldn't this be the second time in six months Biden is doing arms deals without congressional approval?

I just don't see why everyone is excited to see Biden acting like a Republican on this stuff, but when it's time for Biden to help Americans, he still can't do anything without Congress

It's like people honestly believe Dems only have to aim a smidge higher than the current Republican.

There's no standards other than that, and that's a huge danger to America, we can't let whatever idiot Republicans run dictating what kind of president we'll have for half a decade.

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[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

What the point of democracy if no one care what half of the voters want.

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