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[-] jayrodtheoldbod@midwest.social 6 points 2 years ago

I really don't have a passionate stance about it, I just know I called it Twitter for ages, X is shitty branding and isn't going to work, and I stopped using the platform well before Musk took over, so I'm not doing any sort of mental labor trying to make myself use the crap name he chose.

It's a dead website to me, and it's everyone else's problem that they trapped themselves on Twitter, having no career without it. I'm not doing a single thing on behalf of anybody who is still there, those are ghosts, let them howl in the attic, I don't work here.

It's not a human person. It's a website full of assholes. I would make an effort for a transitioning person, but not for Elon Musk and his ham-fisted stupidity, for the folly of some wealthy prick.

It's Twitter until I forget what it's called.

[-] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I am still waiting for a well-known media to call it "the website commonly known as Xitter", instead of "the website formerly known as Twitter".

[-] kubica@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

X, futurely Twitter.

[-] unreachable@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago
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[-] Hootz@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

Shitter, clearly the only acceptable name.

Won't even use it for porn now.

[-] Heavybell@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

X is too short and generic. It is literally just a letter.

[-] elephantium@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

The convention for websites is generally "name" dot com or "name" dot org. If you want to change the name, change the website name.

Until we start going to x.com instead, I'm going to talk about twitter(.com)

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

“Xwitter”

The X is like a fallen over t. Like twitter, falling apart.

[-] EmptySlime 5 points 2 years ago

I liked what one person said I forget where I saw it of calling it Xitter and pronouncing it like Shitter.

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[-] WindowsEnjoyer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

I still call it Twatter

[-] Jonna@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

As long as Elon dead names his child (and supports dead naming), I'm dead naming that dumpster fire Twitter.

[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The owner wants it to be called "X", it is disrespectful to call it anything else. It is a happy coincidence that all name recognition is gone.

Edit: What is so hard to understand.

  1. Calling it X reduces the value of Twitter. Calling it "X, formerly Twitter" tires the two together. I want people to pass on joining X.

  2. You live your values. You should skip your values because someone else is a shit.

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 2 years ago

Ownership doesn't give you some moral right to rename something. Especially ownership of a public platform

It probably gives you the legal right... That's it.

Maybe it's disrespectful, but I'd strongly argue the opposite - it might be a husk of its former self, but Twitter is an impressive technical feat. They did a lot of good in pushing the limits of technology, and modern programmers stand on their shoulders.

A drunk man-child changed its name late one night, with no respect for what he's destroying or even the slightest consideration of how to actually do it

I've never liked Twitter itself, but I think the creators deserve respect for advancing computer science

[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago

Thank you for your perspective. I had not considered that some would think of Twitter as something special and valuable. While Twitter has created some neat ideas, I see them as the "also ran that win due to huge amounts of cash". No morals involved.

The community that grew around Twitter was special, but temporary. Just like to communities before and after it.

Cheers

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 2 years ago

I appreciate that, but I don't even mean the community or the platform (I'm not sure that form of social media is a good thing for humanity, at least I don't think Twitter was) I mean the technologies developed (and shared widely) by Twitter

A big one is sharding. They needed to spread horizontally - no matter how powerful, a single database is a bottleneck at that scale. They needed to put databases in many datacenters too to serve a worldwide user base

But, since Twitter wanted to have one unified platform for everyone (as opposed to several country , and required (near) real time communication. But most of all, it had to be fast

So they invented (or maybe advanced, it's been a while since I read the write up) sharding. It's a way to keep multiple databases in sync. If someone in the UK responds to a tweet in the US, a user in the UK is going to update the UK/EU database. But now you have to sync them - and someone else in the US might've commented in the meantime.

You can sync it through code design, like activity-pub does for the fediverse - you could make each tweet or action a separate record, and push updates to every server. But then you're constrained in your design - everything must be built in a compatible way, and more complex records would take more custom code.

It could probably work for something like Twitter, but they made something more general. They came up with a way to do it at the database level - through some clever designs, they make it so multiple out of sync databases can be treated as a single database.

Now, you can just set up sharding, and don't need to worry about it anymore - now if you build a site and need to scale up quickly, it's basically a drop in solution. You barely have to change your code, if at all... The databases handle everything behind the scenes

They also made bootstrap, the first (or first widely used) style framework. You didn't have to style every button or block of text manually anymore, plus it came with some widely used components (like modals that pop up and gray out the screen, or those drop downs that let you pick a date). It made building modern websites so much easier, especially for people like me that had to be taught color theory to understand how to match my clothes.

Unfortunately, it seems like it was killed thanks to an elongated muskrat or something. But it led to many such frameworks and improved the web as a whole greatly

They did a bunch of public good work like that, kind of like Facebook their core business might be harmful, but they did a lot to advance software engineering as a whole

[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago

Thank you. I learned a lot from your post.

I am hopeful that the churning created by the upheaval will result in a number of new, innovative companies.

[-] elephantium@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

If you want to talk about respect, let's talk about Elon's disrespect to everyone who used Twitter or talks about it now. I noted elsewhere in the discussion that the convention for websites is "name" .com or .org

Google (.com) Twitter (.com) Wikipedia (.org)

etc.

Breaking that mold to be "edgy" doesn't make one clever, it just causes confusion and wastes people's time.

In this case, it's wasted a lot of time because of how high-profile it is.

Side note - I'm also in MN. WDYT about the lake in Minneapolis that they renamed a few years back? It seems like there might be some parallels, but I don't think it's a good example for a worldwide audience. I only bring it up because of your username.

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[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

Have you seen any good twats lately?

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