Call me overly cautious, but I don't really want a president that jokes about becoming a dictator either...

He literally said he was going to be. I'm not sure why this is even a question.

Project 2025 is a plan to reshape the executive branch of the U.S. federal government in the event of a Republican victory in the 2024 U.S. presidential election.[2][3] Established in 2022, the project seeks to recruit tens of thousands of conservatives to Washington, D.C., to replace existing federal civil service workers it characterizes as the "deep state", to further the objectives of the next Republican president.[4] Although participants in the project cannot promote a specific presidential candidate, many have close ties to Donald Trump and the Trump 2024 presidential campaign.[5] The plan would perform a swift takeover of the entire executive branch under a maximalist version of the unitary executive theory — a theory proposing the president of the United States has absolute power over the executive branch — upon inauguration.[6]

Let's never ever find out.

He will certainly try, and that’s bad enough.

Yes, but only if he gets elected.

Really, truly yes.

When people tell you who they are, believe them.

Maybe not, but you know, just to be on the safe side, better vote against him just in case.

For all the deniers jumping in, just where is supposed to be the cutoff point where we let "talk" get to before rational people can say enough is enough?

It isn't the first time we've had "talk" of overthrow, and how often do we need to leave it up the chance that they don't get the opportunuty?

The Business Plot (also called the Wall Street Putsch[1] and The White House Putsch) was a political conspiracy in 1933, in the United States, to overthrow the government of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and install Smedley Butler as dictator.[2][3] Retired Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler testified under oath that wealthy businessmen were plotting to create a fascist veterans' organization with Butler as its leader and use it in a coup d'état to overthrow Roosevelt. In 1934, Butler testified under oath before the United States House of Representatives Special Committee on Un-American Activities (the "McCormack–Dickstein Committee") on these revelations.[4] Although no one was prosecuted, the congressional committee final report said, "there is no question that these attempts were discussed, were planned, and might have been placed in execution when and if the financial backers deemed it expedient."

Early in the committee's gathering of testimony most major news media dismissed the plot, with a New York Times editorial characterizing it as a "gigantic hoax".[5] When the committee's final report was released, the Times said the committee "purported to report that a two-month investigation had convinced it that General Butler's story of a Fascist march on Washington was alarmingly true" and "... also alleged that definite proof had been found that the much publicized Fascist march on Washington, which was to have been led by Major Gen. Smedley D. Butler, retired, according to testimony at a hearing, was actually contemplated".[6] The individuals involved all denied the existence of a plot.

While historians have questioned whether a coup was actually close to execution, most agree that some sort of "wild scheme" was contemplated and discussed.

And if you want a political crime family....

In July 2007, a BBC investigation reported that Prescott Bush, father of U.S. President George H. W. Bush and grandfather of then-president George W. Bush, was to have been a "key liaison" between the 1933 Business Plotters and the newly emerged Nazi regime in Germany,[51] although this has been disputed by Jonathan Katz as a misconception caused by a clerical research error.[52] According to Katz, "Prescott Bush was too involved with the actual Nazis to be involved with something that was so home grown as the business plot."

So it seems if one would want to say that an overthrow of the United States has been in progress by politically connected individuals for over 100 years, both actively and "just talk", they would have a whole bunch of things they could talk about.

Trump doesn't have intellectual defenders.

He said he would, and he literally tried to. Were it not for a handful of DC police and Secret Service personnel, he probably would have.

Anyone who doubts this should probably abstain from voting, or really making any critical decisions until their brain damage can be evaluated.

How is it liberals claim Biden is powerless to do anything and everything requires small, slow, incremental baby steps, but think Republicans get everything they want on day one? That's not the best argument for electing democrats as liberals think it is.

First, I reached out to Roger Kimball, editor of The New Criterion, a highbrow journal of arts and ideas. Its most recent issue included a defense of Henry Kissinger, a lament comparing brutalist architecture to the increased acceptance of tattoos (which digressed into a complaint about the popularity of women’s soccer in Europe), and a review of a new translation of Plato‘s dialogues. Kimball himself has written several books and essays that warn against what he says are declining cultural standards. He seemed like the perfect person to place Trump in a historical context and show that our fears are overblown and that he is simply the latest iteration of the hurly-burly of American politics — rough around the edges, perhaps, but not much different from what we have faced before.

Oh, this truly sounds like someone anyone should listen to. Let’s see how grounded in reality these intellectuals defending Trump are. This will be good.

„What Trump said on January 6 was that you should proceed down and patriotically make your voice known. That is called petitioning Congress. There is a constitutional right to do that, and the more you look at what happened on January 6, the weirder it looks. There were clearly scores of federal agents in the crowd abetting people.”

Ah! I see. Intellectuals.

People thought Hitler was a bit of a joke and the danger was overblown in the 1920s.

See his trajectory.

See how having power & being threatened both alter his trajectory in the same direction, towards totalitarianism.

The economic rug-pull that is going to hand the Repubs lots of backlash vote, is likely to enable them to make him GEOTUS, which is their wet-dream

( go on www.wikipedia.org and search for GEOTUS and it'll land you on Donald Trump's page.

GEOTUS stands for "God Emperor Of The United States", and wikipedia altered their search-engine logic to hide that they have Trump as GEOTUS: the search-page-result-statistics don't include any GEOTUS page, but the search works )

Combined with the GenZ nonvoting, the total Muslim not voting for Biden, and the economic pain's backlash vote, I think Biden has little chance in 2024.

IOW, I believe that the reverse-takeover of the kkKonfederates is going to happen, and the beginning of US Civil War Part2 is certain, beginning within 3y of Jan1 2025.

the root-cause isn't political-left or political-right, the root-cause is Kahneman System-1 fighting-off considered-reasoning, aka Kahneman System-2.

It's the same world-wide.

"Putin Country" is a book on how rural Russia is the same as MAGA territory, just with different labels.

Rural Israel, rural Syria, the shitty education that condescended to the "lower class" students, and the "lower class" students were taught just how much contempt the "intellectuals" had for them, and they have equivalent contempt for the "intellectuals"...

that is part of it.

Bluntly, humankind is fighting-off considered-reasoning, reverting to imprinted-reaction, just as herdbeasts live in imprinted-reaction.

No moral-anxiety, when only-imprinted-reaction ( Kahneman System-1 ) is running, see?

Read "Thinking Fast & Slow" by Daniel Kahneman, & then see that all the politics is just "makeup" on this System-1 going "alpha" and obliterating System-2/considered-reasoning's having any say.

Globally.

Boosting petrol-consumption breaks the threat of loss-of-authority/alphaness ( never mind that it makes the planet more likely to drown in wildfires, megadroughts, extra-hurricanes, berzerk flooding, temporary deep-freezes, lethally-roasting regional temperatures, trashed ports due to sea-level-rise, etc, that "isn't real", right?

Not to imprinted-reaction mind, aka limbic-mind's "reasoning". )

so .. it is an animal-"need", right?

All the different variants of "supremacism" are all just animal herdbeast "alpha" bulling.

Corporate, oligarchic, class, legalism, etc.

Just variants on the underlying herdbeast politics.

The Great Filter is going to be pruning-down this species rather horribly, later this century.

Nothing infuriates a tantruming toddler with guns the way implacable-accountability does.

And that is all that humankind's unconscious-mind is: toddler-with-guns.

Trump's a symptom, not a cause.

So's Putin.

So's both Hamas & the Israeli gov't.

every continent has its own version.

Human nature.

It hasn't changed, and either Universe succeeds in force-changing it, this century, or our epitaph is going to be that we wouldn't grow-up, and we .. force-extinguished ourself.

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When someone tells you who they are, believe them.