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That thing has been at or past 5 minute to midnight my entire life. Can't live your whole life in fear.
Yeah even you, Boomers.
This clock has never worked, why believe the fear mongering?
At least a stopped clock is right twice a day. Doomsday clock can't even do that right
It broke in the 90's. History was "over" so they kind of adjusted the scale, and now that shit's real again they keep having to shave off tiny increments closer and closer to midnight.
We're still way better off than during the Cuban missile crisis, imminent existential risk-wise.
Yeah but the Cuban Missile Crisis was theoretically solvable in a short time period and none of our current problems are.
I guess the crisis itself could be and was, but at the time nobody was really talking about the concept of a cold war, and the nuclear threat stayed heightened for decades. Actually, opinions vary on how long a nuclear-power conflict can reliably stay cold, even now.
AI and nuclear war seem like the main direct threats right now. Climate change will suck and I'll miss coral reefs, but it's not planet killing unless it sets something else more deliberate off. The world looks unstable, but I'm not expecting WWIII this year, and AI isn't going to be very dangerous by 2025 either. The Cuban missile crisis should have ended the world as we know it in the span of a few months. We basically just won a few coin flips in a row; I bet other parallel universes weren't so lucky.
but it's not planet killing
That’s cool except no one is arguing about it killing the planet. What it will do is kill our environment which is the part that determines the survival of our species.
It's not environment-killing either, at least as far as growing wheat and tomatoes is concerned. Environment-damaging, sure, but we could potentially starve a lot of people and keep going (though we shouldn't!), and it's not even clear agricultural output will go down rather than just relocating.
Don't get me wrong, I like having wild animals besides rats and flies, and I don't love the idea of a giant global mass-migration crisis as Bangladesh sinks into the sea and we fight over farmland in what used to be an icecap, so I still think we need to crack down on fossil fuels a lot harder. We're pretty adaptable, though, and some sad little human world will exist on the other side if that's all.
Tell that to the crop failures.
Not only is your opinion absolutely wrong but it’s a dangerous one too because it removes the need to change and to do so quickly.
This is why nothing will ever change and why humans will continue polluting and destroying our habitat.
Humans are fucking stupid.
Crops in western America might fail, but the whole world isn't America. Yields move, and 2023-2024 was a record harvest globally.
Don't take my word for it, there's an actual scientist elsewhere in the thread.
Humans are fucking stupid.
Well, we can agree on that. The human reaction to "the world is ending" is usually giving up. Which is why we shouldn't say that unless the science supports that, which it doesn't quite.
Unfortunately we lost the coin toss that gave us Wilson rather than Teddy Roosevelt for The Great War.
Quit edging us and dooms our day, damnit!
If we take into consideration that we started the year with a Genocide taking place in Palestine, that doesn't sound surprising to me.
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What the hell is this title. It's like it's some alien device planted here in the dawn of time and it just all of a sudden updated itself.
Some people decided things are looking ~~black~~ bleak based on things other people say. 🤷♂️
It's been going on since 1947, dude. It's not USA Today's fault you've never heard of it.
I'm not saying I'm not aware of it or never heard of it... That's not my point at all.
Some people decided things are looking black based on things other people say. 🤷♂️
Is the same line used by climate change deniers and anti-vaxxers.. 🤷♀️
(I'm the last person to say blindly follow or even respect authority, but this isn't about authority, it's about knowledge, which the people who make these decisions have significantly more of than you, or me)
Also, you'd have to have your head reaaaaaal deep up your own ass to think things are going well on this planet, it's not as if they're even saying anything outlandish or far fetched.. 🤦♀️
I'm not going to debate this, because I'm not on either side of this debate. I've seen enough (valid scientific) arguments on both sides to realize that I/we simply know too little to get into it with.
I'm not a climate change denier either. The change has happened and is happening. Everyone is noticing it without having to use any measuring instruments.
Not really the point I was trying to make though anyway. I'm not from America so I don't partake in their black-and-white type of argumentation. "Either this or that", you know?
I'm just simply saying the doomsday clock isn't some magical device saying "we're fucked now guys", but that it's updated by humans.
I think it's spreading fear unnecessarily by saying "LOOK AT IT, WE'RE GONNA DIE" instead of focusing on what we can do. There's my two cents.
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