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Support for far-right AfD eases after Germany-wide protests - polls (news.yahoo.com)

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BERLIN (Reuters) - Support for the Alternative for Germany (AfD) dropped slightly in two polls published on Tuesday after 10 days of nationwide protests against the far-right party, although it remained firmly in second place.

Support for the AfD dropped 2 percentage points to 20% in a Forsa poll, the lowest level in four months. The party remained behind the opposition conservatives on 31% but still well ahead of all the three parties in Chancellor Olaf Scholz's centre-left coalition, who together were polling 32%.

The AfD dropped 1.5 percentage points on the week to 21.5% in the poll by the German Institute for New Social Answers (INSA), behind the conservatives on 30.5% and the ruling coalition on 31%.

"The demonstrations against the AfD are supported by 37% of Germans and they are showing an impact," INSA chief Hermann Binkert said.

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[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 73 points 1 year ago

To people that are saying the protests are all words and no action. This is what the action accomplishes. There's a subset of people that only mildly supported AfD or thought that their rheteoric wouldn't affect them but publicizing the secretive meeting and master-plan gets at least a few people to realize what's going on.

Sure there will still be a bunch of people that don't realize they're being had for suckers. It will only be too late when the supporters realize "they aren't hurting who they needing to be hurting".

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[-] Gladaed@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

10 % of voters wavering is not a lot though.

[-] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 3 points 1 year ago

That's double-digit. How many would qualify as a lot?

[-] Gladaed@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Because 20 of 22 % of voters not caring is much more.

[-] Matriks404@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

It blows my mind that fascism is on the rise in fucking 21th century. IN WESTERN DEMOCRATIC COUNTRIES.

[-] Jagermo@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago

Those fucks promise easy solutions for hard problems, and the best thing, you don't have to change and only need to vote for them. Fuckers thrive on Chaos and other people trying to explain hard topics

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Actual Nazism being on the rise in Germany is pretty insane. You would think that the education system would have prevented these ideas from rising again, but apparently all you need is the economy taking a downturn and everything that they learned goes out of the window to blame minorities for their problems..

[-] Miaou@jlai.lu 9 points 1 year ago

Been living in Germany for a few years now, I'm absolutely not surprised. Germans may have learned that throwing people in ovens is bad, but they never learned that they are not übermenschen. Which eventually means the former creeps back in

[-] BaardFigur@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

to blame minorities for their problems..

While they're far from the only problem, they certainly are a part of it. Specifically those from muslim/arab countries, refusing to assimilate, and instead become criminals/rapists etc. Minorities from these countries are topping crime statistics, so when someone comes around offering a solution, they will get support.

AfD is by no means a good solution, but in order to stop people from voting on it, other political parties must be willing to offer a more sane solution to the same problems.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, the biggest Arab aspiration is to emigrate to the west to become a serial rapist. Thanks for the enlightenment. Don't forget to also say they steal all the jobs and simultaneously abuse the welfare system.

You think it might have something to do with poor people being more present in crime statistics? No that can't be it has te be related to race and/or religoin. Hey wait we did this 75 years ago! Get your Siegs ready boys

[-] BaardFigur@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Are you American? Because if you are, your opinion is worth null and void. You haven't seen the effects of a large muslim population first hand.

Ah yes, the biggest Arab aspiration is to emigrate to the west to become a serial rapist.

Many actually oppose the west, and want Islam to spread, while still enjoying the benefits of living in the west.

Thanks for the enlightenment. Don't forget to also say they steal all the jobs

If only. They're largely unemployed

abuse the welfare system.

They do, putting unnecessary pressure on it.

You think it might have something to do with poor people being more present in crime statistics?

Why would anyone want to make their own country significantly worse by taking them in?

No that can't be it has te be related to race and/or religoin.

Culture/religion is a major part. Race is not, that's a made up concept.

Hey wait we did this 75 years ago! Get your Siegs ready boys

I already said AfD (and similar parties throughout other European countries) is a terrible option

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Why would anyone want to make their own country significantly worse by taking them in?

They show up because we screwed over their countries. If you don't want them to show up you should have considered our governments not going on an imperialist rampage and overthrowing every African and Middle-Eastern government that doesn't give us their natural resources.

Furthermore Western birth rates are so low that without immigration country couldn't actually run. Most of the lower paying physical labor IE garbage collection, airport luggage, doing field work on farms, etc are done by these people.

Lastly it's not actually that many refugees coming into Europe. Most of the refugees end up in Turkey. By far the largest amount of refugees Europe received was the recent Ukranians. Arabs are certainly not on the streets mass raping women. This is mostly just propaganda pushed by Russia on facebook:

[-] BaardFigur@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

They show up because we screwed over their countries.

Who are we? I'm certainly not complisit in it.

you don't want them to show up you should have considered our governments not going on an imperialist rampage and overthrowing every African and Middle-Eastern government that doesn't give us their natural resources.

Whose? Yours? Not mine.

Furthermore Western birth rates are so low that without immigration country couldn't actually run. Most of the lower paying physical labor IE garbage collection, airport luggage, doing field work on farms, etc are done by these people.

Maybe it would be beneficial, if the majority actually integrated, and got jobs. And if they didn't actively commit crime, which drains police resources, as well as causing divison and instability. A lot of low-skilled labour intensive jobs could also be automated.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Who are we? I’m certainly not complisit in it.

Most European countries are responsible for Africa being a mess, and America and England screwed up the middle east and surroundings.

Germany is one of the most prominent Zionist countries. Actively supporting Netanyahu in his genocide to screw up the middle east and create another giant Palestinian refugee crisis as we speak.

The Palestinians and Lebanese wouldn't have to seek refugee if countries like Germany weren't helping to screw up theirs. I guess if you wanna be racist then they can also just say "white people just can't be helped from Genociding little children and thinking they are the Ubermensch it's in their DNA"?

But it's not of course. I recommend you read up about some Chinese propaganda about Vietnamese people. Two entirely different races that are basically convinced of the same thing you are. Saying that Vietnamese people are somehow all lazy brown rapists.

Maybe it would be beneficial, if the majority actually integrated, and got jobs. And if they didn’t actively commit crime, which drains police resources, as well as causing divison and instability. A lot of low-skilled labour intensive jobs could also be automated.

Many of them do have jobs and the ones that don't are usually actively blocked by the government from getting a job. Because they have to wait years and years for their application to get processed and somehow governments don't want to use this labor but rather have it sit around waiting.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

lol “oh no diversity is scary”

[-] BaardFigur@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Stick to American politics, yankee

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

"Go back to where you came from".

When people go ad hominem like you just did, they reveal their insecurity and inability to form a rebuttal.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That’s because everyone hung up their hats and rested on their laurels starting right after WWII. Now that the promise of that time turned out to be a lie, people are angry and looking for a place to project their malaise.

[-] roastedDeflator@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Misleading title:

It looks like the numbers of polls from INSA in 2024 were 7 and the percentage number for AfD varied from 18 to 23.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_German_federal_election#2024

Since the 18% was on the 11th-12th of January, why celebrate that after so many mass protests this number is at 21,5%?

[-] nao@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

That particular poll seems to be an outlier with BSW getting 14% and most other parties scoring lower than on other recent polls.

[-] roastedDeflator@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The fact that it's the lowest one doesn't make it an outlier. It's just the first numeric value in a range going from 18 to 23.

[-] KISSmyOS@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What the article fails to mention is the new party BSW, which is now in the polls for the first time and drew some % away from other parties, including the AfD. That alone is enough to explain the slight change in AfD support.

BSW combines nationalist views on immigration with socialist economic principles, and a foreign policy based on sucking Putin's dick.

[-] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The lights turn on, and the cockroaches scatter. Look at that.

I actually respect people who are racists and open about it, in a way. They're very wrong, and obviously resistant to education on why, but at least they're being true to what they think is right. A lot of these people have to know they're rotten on some level.

[-] GoodbyeBlueMonday@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago

Reminds me of a conversation in the Wire between Carcetti and Bunny, about "Old Man Stryker": https://youtu.be/MTrvAnP5U18?si=UvjiXno_gbefGCuG

[-] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 2 points 1 year ago

Man, I've got to watch that sometime. It's been famously underrated for so long it almost counts as hype.

[-] GoodbyeBlueMonday@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago

It's a slow start, but it's worth the investment IMHO. Have a good one!

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