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I can wear a dress to work and nobody criticizes me. I’d be really sad if I had to wear pants all the time, they’re just not as comfortable. Let’s normalize pretty dresses for dudes!

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[-] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 112 points 2 years ago

Yea, but let's design some to work on male bodies. Dresses are generally built for female body shapes, and rely on curves most guys just don't have in order to complete the shape - so we end up looking like Graveyard Barbie in them.

Guys tend to be a lot more oblong, and the overall design would need a rethink in order to actively work with that shape, instead of unsuccessfully trying to compensate for it.

No, I don't know how to do this.

[-] schrodingers_dinger@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago

I was a slutty nun for Halloween and looking cute in a skirt is definitely possible, but man does it take a lot of work to find anything that fits decently. Dresses are simply impossible to find of course because, as you said, the shape is not at all made for men.

Also that outfit made me want to go full f1nn5ter and dress up in feminine clothes all the time lol. It's so much fun! I'm so down for people to figure out how to make the shape work for masculine body shapes.

[-] boeman@lemmy.world 59 points 2 years ago

I was a slutty nun for Halloween

Just don't make it a habit.

[-] ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

I don't know if I could keep that vow.

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[-] Snafu@kbin.social 23 points 2 years ago

Dudes in parts of Africa and the Middle East have already got it figured out. Djellabas look fantastic on most men. I'd love to see more people wearing them.

[-] pragmakist@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago

My first thought when I read op was that trousers are a relative new development.

The Romans made fun of the Gauls for wearing them.

So if you decide to wear traditional Roman dress, trousers shouldn't be included.

But it's still designed for men.

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[-] Xariphon@kbin.social 72 points 2 years ago

Honestly, one thing I hate about being biologically male is that men's clothes all look so goddamn generic.

Oh, you're wearing a suit. It's. A suit. I guess. They all look the same.

You're wearing jeans. And a t-shirt. And they all look basically the same.

Khakis and a polo? You madlad. Well, you and everybody else at the country club. Who all look exactly the fucking same.

The thing that really gets me is, it didn't used to be this way. You look at pictures of people in paintings and whatnot and men had some wild shit going on. There was variety, if somewhat less, even into the early 20th. But... seriously tell me if I'm wrong here... it feels like we got to WWII and men's fashion just stopped. Like an entire generation of men put on uniforms and eighty years later we still haven't completely taken them off.

[-] exterstellar@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago

They don't ALL look the same. It's just that the stuff that actually looks non-generic are either super expensive or super uncomfortable.

[-] Scope@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago

Or, just bad. There's nothing generic about Ed Hardy. Most people elect to look generic rather than be caught dead in that mess.

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[-] SolarNialamide@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

Mainstream clothes for sure, but I feel the same way about mainstream women's clothes. Waist high jeans, an inoffensively colored top and a vest or blazer. Switch out the jeans for beige linen pants in the summer. Yawn. If you want inspiration for some more interesting clothes in general but men in particular, you gotta look to non-mainstream subcultures. Especially ones that don't give shit about gender. I hung out with hippies for years and men and women alike are dressed in cool, colorful and interesting clothes. Both genders wear pants, dresses, and skirts. It heavily inspired my style and believe me, I stand out a lot among other women. If you want more variety you have got to look further than what's mainstream. Because that'll always trend towards boring and basic.

[-] floppy@rabbitea.rs 18 points 2 years ago

Even mainstream clothes are better in the woman's section. I was in Peacocks (fairly small cheap clothes shop - you can see most of what they've got by standing near the centre) and you can just tell where the men's clothes are by the sea of dull, boring shades with not a single thing showing any sign of colour at all, like the brightness is turned down to 1 on the telly. The style differences are minimal. Even the material is just awful scratchy fabric for the most part. Look over to the woman's section and it's a sea of colour, many more different styles (not that many, as I said, this is a small cheap shop), and if you touch anything it's instantly noticeable that the material is much better quality, softer. I don't get woman who wear men's clothes - why would you put yourself through that?

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[-] sorenant@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago

I wouldn't mind dressing in tunic+toga.

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[-] Hillock@kbin.social 35 points 2 years ago

As a man I never considered pants to be uncomfortable. They are the perfect mix of range of motion, hiding the private parts. and support. Dresses, skirts, and robes seem like a nightmare to wear. You either restrict your range of motion or have to constantly worry about showing your underwear. And I would wear boxer briefs underneath by choice anyhow, so I still end up wearing pants.

I think the bigger issue is that most of us men are too lazy to look for different kinds of pants and end up wearing the same stuff year-round. Which can indeed become uncomfortable due to changes in temperature. But that issue wouldn't be fixed by having access to dresses or robes. As again, some would either be too cold or too hot.

[-] SolarNialamide@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

I used to have a pretty intense not-like-the-other-girls fase in my teens, and I never wore skirts or dresses, and felt the same way you do. Then I got over that internalized misogyny and started experimenting with clothes a little, and the first time I put on a dress it was like a hallelujah moment. The most comfortable thing in the goddamn world. They do not restrict your movement at all, that's only a problem if you wear knee-high pencil skirts of stiff fabric. In colder seasons you wear leggings under them which are equally comfortable. It was so incredibly comfy I did a complete 180 and it took me 10 years to wear a pair of pants again, and that's only because the waist high mom jeans in style now are so loose and non-restricting. Any other style of pants I won't touch with a 10 feet pole.

[-] LChitman@kbin.social 18 points 2 years ago

But how do you sit in an office chair with your feet on the seat, like I do, in a dress?

No, I refuse to sit properly.

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[-] Usually_Lurker@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago

I think those are called kilts, and some of the cooler ones come with pockets (just like the cool lady dresses.

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[-] wolre@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago

Completely agree. While both pants and dresses have their pros and cons, it should be everybody's own choice which one they want to wear. I hope that this is something that will change over time.

[-] Creazle@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Some workmates and I petitioned our boss for the return of 70's office shorts over the course of one hot summer, to no avail.

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[-] Quasar@lemmy.fmhy.ml 30 points 2 years ago

A few summers ago I brought up the idea that men should be allowed to wear shorts to the office if women can wear dresses and my boss literally laughed in my face. We work in a small-ish office and are not client facing so who tf cares what we wear? A while later they made a whole big deal about us being allowed to wear jeans to the office ever day (vs only on Fridays) you could hear a pin drop at the staff meeting. It was painful but satisfying to watch. Fuck those assholes…

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[-] coffeewithalex@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago

Wear whatever the hell you want, right? Screw genders and made up rules around them.

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[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

At least if men wore more skirts and dresses then manufacturers would add pockets.

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[-] AncillaryJustice@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago
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[-] itsJoelleScott@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

Boxers-while-working gang rise up.

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[-] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

Im pro men wearing whatever the f they want. Im not pro shaming men wearing pans to promote men wearing dresses

[-] atomicorange@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Not trying to shame anyone. I feel sad that men seem to have fewer choices is all. I’m pro-pants, and also pro- skirts and shorts and dresses and jumpsuits and strategically arranged utility belts.

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[-] Voyajer@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago
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[-] stringere@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

I have 4 kilts and wear them to work when I want to, almost as a dare to management so I can retire off a lawsuit. Utilikilts and Verillas have great kilts with pockets for workin' men that like a pretty skirt.

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[-] AletheCrow@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago

Pants are optional when entering my house however underwear is mandatory lol.

A lot of comments here are not wrong. Men’s clothing in general doesn’t have a lot of variety. 4 different colors of the same style shirt or more doesn’t count as variety. Look in a big box clothing store and you’ll see that the women’s section is almost always 2 to nearly 3x larger.

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[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 2 years ago
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[-] Stan@lemmywinks.com 22 points 2 years ago

I mean, I don’t have to wear pants…

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[-] Today@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

A friend has a degree in fashion design and her senior project was a clothing line that you ordered by measurement instead of men's/women's sizing so it was supposed to fit a person not a gender.

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[-] Skellybones@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

Nah no pity here, we got pockets best thing in the world you should probably feel more envious really

[-] atomicorange@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

I’m gonna design a dress made of nothing but pockets out of pure spite.

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[-] Lazerbeams2@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago
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[-] XbSuper@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

I feel the opposite. I wouldn't wear a dress even if it was socially acceptable, they don't look comfy.

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[-] xyzinferno@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

I may be in the minority on this, but I wear pants to work every day, even in the summer, and it doesn't feel uncomfortable. I just like wearing my jeans, and if anything, I've gotten more flak from friends about not wearing shorts enough

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[-] sheogorath@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

Men, let me introduce you to sarongs. My cousin was roommates with a Ukrainian guy and after he tried wearing it he basically got converted. He bought a dozen to be brought back to Ukraine. With the conflict going on I hope he's safe now.

[-] arensb@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

How can something sarong feel so right?

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[-] popemichael@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

I'm cool with pants. It's one less thing to worry about, not having my crotch exposed or readily available.

Plus, if I fall, my legs are more protected

[-] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

My boss made it very clear that while the pictures in our dress code handbook are of the general gender stereotypes, doesn't mean we are holding people to that. As long as you are business casual it doesn't matter how you represent.

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[-] lingh0e@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

I agree with your overall sentiment, but I'm good keeping my ugly knees and hairy legs covered.

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[-] fffuckedpeg@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

I wear my kilt all the time, most comfortable thing ever

[-] floppy@rabbitea.rs 16 points 2 years ago

And skirts. They are soooo comfy, but it's not socially acceptable to go outside in one.

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