Its okay, if enough of us are left twiddling our thumbs we'll find a place to jam them up. Oh what a good boy am I.

What is the path to UBI from here? AI tax?

The competitors are also using AI. They don't want to deal with "employees" any more than the big guys do. They'll actually get more done in less time with AI. So at best, you stand out among the thousands that get laid off and some other employer lets you be the lucky one to gently steer the AI when it goes off course.

If you do, you’re in for a world of hurt as hallucinations and training issues will almost certainly give you some headaches

I think the next wave of work will be a huge bunch of mechanical turks to fight against hallucinations. These jobs will barely pay above minimum wage and you will be instructed to either tag data or generate new "pure human sourced" data.

This is the most realistic outcome imo. Even before AI there's already a pattern where employees jump through companies before they gather enough experience to make their own.

by definition that wouldn't be the case, there would be an infinite number of timelines like that.

Probably not. The same technology would be able to and would likely replace labor in any economic system. Exactly how that happens and what the effects on work and the workers is could vary. E.g. everyone working fewer hours vs some working full time and others living off a comprehensive welfare system, etc.

The problem is that each of those examples is a single thing. It solved a particular problem and moved jobs away from that one particular task.

But AI is, by definition, general purpose. It doesn't solve a particular task it solves all the tasks, or at least tries to. So it theoretically removes labor from everything. Which in and of itself isn't a problem, but society needs to be adapted to deal with the fact that most people won't have jobs through no fault of their own.

While I agree that less mindless work is better as someone from nj, it’s quite nice not having to get out of my car to pump gas when it’s cold windy rainy or snowing or stupidly hot

They also wipe windshields and rear windows for free with the squeegee stick

Maybe in some future where we drive up to automated car chargers that can plug ur car in or auto battery swaps I’ll call gas pumpers redundant but honestly It’s not that bad a deal if it needs a person

Well, I, one of those people who would be replaced by said robots, am all for it. Fuck work. Buuut, without some other kind of economic system in place, we will be cut off from the food and water and housing trades pretty goddamn quick. Capitalism and leisure don’t go hand in hand. Capitalism and human and/or animal and/or plant life don’t go hand in hand. In short, capitalism is incompatible with life. Period. It’s a system of death that runs on the idea that if you exploit someone to the point of nearly starving, you’ll win more. If you can exploit people all down the chain to the point that they make next to nothing, you’ll win capitalism.

The system is so short sighted that they are trying to cut costs no matter what, while still actively fighting anything that makes life remotely livable for, yknow, the people. That line go up, all is right with world.

I wonder how many people will die before they start seeing a dent in their bottom line and start beating their head against the “we need to tax the people (not our businesses) so you can pay the people (that have no work and no money) so they can make my business profit!” wall before they actually give in to increasing their own taxes…so with that excess profit, people can hand it back to them in purchases?

I dunno, but there’s no way I see capitalism and no work ever coexisting. It just doesn’t make sense. Not to mention “they” would never allow it because they hoard more and more and we all starve.