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[-] smeg@feddit.uk 47 points 1 year ago

Don't forget the "legitimate interest" cookies that you can't even disable because the dickheads selling the ads think the law doesn't apply to them!

[-] SoyTDI@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Reject button...but you have to pay to use it.

[-] Suspicious_Bee 9 points 1 year ago

That is now actually the case in Spain, some pages make you either accept cookies or pay a subscription fee to remove them. For example, 3djuegos makes you either accept cookies for 799 partners, or pay 2€/month to reject them

[-] FrederikNJS@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

Yeah, lots of pages are trying to pull that stunt, which isn't legal according to the GDPR. Facebook and many news outlets are trying it too.

I filed a complaint about Facebook with my local data protection agency, which agreed and forwarded the case to Ireland. Well see whether Ireland conforms to the GDPR.

[-] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

CNIL (French privacy body) ruled that it was legal except for government websites. A lot of French newspapers do it.

[-] FrederikNJS@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wow... How did they argue that consent was still "freely given"? And also that it is "as easy" to give as it is to withdraw consent?

Relevant quotes:

Consent should not be regarded as freely given if the data subject has no genuine or free choice or is unable to refuse or withdraw consent without detriment.

It shall be as easy to withdraw as to give consent.

[-] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 2 points 1 year ago

They say it's legal, as it is a viable alternative to tracking, but has to be a reasonable amount.

https://www.cnil.fr/fr/cookie-walls-la-cnil-publie-des-premiers-criteres-devaluation

[-] FrederikNJS@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Damn... That is very disappointing.

[-] XTornado@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If people wouldn't just accept it, which unfortunately they will do, this would make me the happiest man.

It would kill so many shitty places because people would only pay for the good ones, oh man I would be so happy less shitty, autogenerated, copy paste stuff on the web and search results and more quality content....

Unfortunately that isn't how it works as most people don't care or don't understand the tracking stuff and just accept.

[-] Suspicious_Bee 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I would love it if instead of accepting cookies people stopped visiting those sites, but most will just accept and move on. I hope the EU rules this as not complying with GDPR or something and they need to revert the changes, but I have no idea if it will actually happen.

[-] 1050053@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Accepting 3rd party cookies is just smoke and mirrors. Safari blocks them by default, so websites can just send data through the Webpage Javascript directly to their affiliates if they want to.

Your data is still being collected. To what extent, I don't know.

[-] onion@feddit.de 18 points 1 year ago

The EU mandates active consent for all tracking, not just cookies.

[-] 1050053@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure if analytics and data such as browser signature can be rejected if they are considered required, but I'd be keen to know more.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Fuck Veggie Tales. That shit is creepy Christian propaganda

[-] Menteros@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

That shit is ~~creepy~~ hilarious Christian propaganda

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Even if there's a reject button, still freaking annoying when you start reading and after two seconds you get interrupted by the prompt.

It used to be just the newsletter prompt, the notifications prompt, etc. Don't need an additional thing by law. 😑 Let's hope it goes away soon with the current developments.

[-] napoleonsdumbcousin@feddit.de 53 points 1 year ago

Don't need an additional thing by law. 😑

You still don't need it if you don't spy on your users. Cookie banners are not required. Asking for consent before collecting data that goes beyond the necessary minimum is required.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 year ago

Indeed, websites like Wikipedia and Lemmy don't ask for cookies because they don't want to invade your privacy.

And they are completely in line with the EU law.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That's what I meant. I thought that was clear from the context. 😅 My bad.

[-] janonymous@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

You can install a browser addon like "I don't care about cookies" to automatically close these.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 year ago

Those accept all the cookies.

Better to use Consent-o-Matic, which automatically rejects all unnecessary cookies.

[-] Asudox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

"In most cases, the add-on just blocks or hides cookie related pop-ups. When it's needed for the website to work properly, it will automatically accept the cookie policy for you (sometimes it will accept all and sometimes only necessary cookie categories, depending on what's easier to do). It doesn't delete cookies."

[-] onion@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

Hiding the popup should be the same as clicking reject, assuming the website is legal

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yep, this is the one I have. 👌💪 It's very good.

[-] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I've been using susperagent on Firefox but wasn't sure about its security, I'm new to the Firefox world.

[-] 18107@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Interesting extension. I think I'll give it a try.

It is entirely open source, and the website does a very good job explaining what it does and why.

[-] danielf@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've recently discovered an extension called Consent-O-Matic, which automatically completes cookie forms. Also, uBlock Origin includes lists (disabled by default) that will block all sorts of annoyances, including newsletter shite.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I have them both and they're great!

[-] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Firefox plus superagent. Superagent is an extention that automatically applies your cookie setting to those prompts and you don't see them. I now reject all and haven't seen a pop up since installing. I can't vouch for its security though. I am pretty new to Firefox, but it seems to work.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I have consent-o-matic, works great on both desktop and mobile. 👍

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't want any cookies unless they come with milk (or save my login info for return visits on the same device).

[-] Ignacio@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago
[-] Pika@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I Just disable cookies by default or have it session only cookies. Back before Firefox supported Auto rejecting or accepting prompts natively I used to use one of those. It would accept the cookies however since it only allowed session based cookies when I closed my browser It would delete them all.

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