@georgetakei@universeodon.com Visit to a small-minded planet?

@georgetakei@universeodon.com okay but what about the other aliens? And the other other aliens? Why should we assume there's only one alien group? And that they're homogeneous over endless space and time?

Would every single alien ever for all time agree to never ever contact us?

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I so dislike it when people allegedly friendly to my ideology take it for granted that the other side defines humanity. Yes, there's a lot of awful in us. There's a lot of wonderful, too. Let the other side say we're crud. Let's not say it about ourselves.

@georgetakei@universeodon.com Our memetic infections are probably more dangerous in the long run than our physical infections and they cross freely between minds even if our biology is incompatible.

@georgetakei@universeodon.com I have it on good authority that when aliens' GPS accidentally steers them into this neighborhood, they roll up the windows, lock the doors, and step on it at Warp 9

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This to me was one of the aspects of the Star Trek Prime Directive. Not just protecting minority culture but also avoiding it until it can get on the highway and you really can’t.

Anyway, let’s keep working for the betterment of humanity!

@georgetakei@universeodon.com I believe the answer can be found in the (new) Outer Limits episode 'Final Exam'.

Not by choice mind you. the speed of light is so slow compared to the size of the universe they don't know we are here.

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@georgetakei@universeodon.com Isn't there some saying about extra-terrestrial life intelligent enough to invent interstellar travel would also be smart enough to not come here?

@georgetakei@universeodon.com To be fair, can were blame them? We either look like free labor or proverbial insects to annihilate on one end of the spectrum or probably seem horrible primitive, uncultured, and barbaric (as a species) on the other side.

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Kirk obviously got there first.

Their women are ashamed, their men are pissed.

@georgetakei@universeodon.com either that or the filter is Orange and social media

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Or...

@georgetakei@universeodon.com I literally wrote that short story:

@georgetakei@universeodon.com earth could be a nice place to grow plants and raise cattle. Kinda like how we keep screwing around with the Arab countries cause we want their oil.

@georgetakei@universeodon.com I guess we won't be having a "Day The Earth Stood Still" event any time soon.

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Earth is the Galactic version of that bad neighbourhood you try not to go to, and if you have to drive through it you do it with your doors and windows locked, and never after dark.

@georgetakei@universeodon.com makes sense to me

@georgetakei@universeodon.com If they are around, and I still doubt that they’d spend the effort to visit this backwater, the obvious conclusion is exactly that.

@georgetakei@universeodon.com Welllll… why are we studying lemurs, fungi, asteroids, religions, cockroaches, languages, jellyfish, music, viruses, ball lightning, cloud formations, rocks, seaweed, food, and basically everything else there is to see or imagine?

My solution to the Fermi paradox is: they’re cringing at our ceaseless churning-out of increasingly desperate and speculative solutions to the Fermi paradox. :P

@georgetakei@universeodon.com Exactly.
Also, why did we even try SETI. If a more advanced race has interstellar travel, they have found a short cut. That would be highly unlikely to be sensed by radio.

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@georgetakei@universeodon.com Welllll… why are we studying lemurs, fungi, asteroids, cockroaches, jellyfish, bacteria, horses, ball lightning, cloud formations, rocks, seaweed, and basically everything else there is to see?

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Yeah, Stephen's got a point. We don't play well with other races.

@georgetakei@universeodon.com can't blame them - even i, as human, want to avoid as much humans i can avoid 🤷 😄

@georgetakei@universeodon.com since there isn’t any intelligent life on Earth, no reason to visit. It would be like humans traveling to a dump in Bangladesh to make contact with the fermented contents of a diaper.

@georgetakei@universeodon.com Three Body Problem has an answer.

@georgetakei@universeodon.com A little egocentric.

@georgetakei@universeodon.com well it's already been established that apart from an accident back in 1957, aliens will basically avoids us until April 5, 2063 😉

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I agree, however surely if they were say 100 ly away they would detect our world as it was in 1924, as light would have taken 100 years to reach them.

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Either that or they have the prime directive.

Ahead warp factor 9 past Earth, Mr Sulu.

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If there existed a real version of Star Trek, would not the Prime Directive preclude a Captain Sulu from contacting a civilization as undeveloped, violent, and addicted to unrestrained capitalism as the present one on earth?

Better to let it progress or not on its own, as it attempts to explore a universe beyond its small star system. That could take some time, which would give the Federation - or the Klingons - more time to develop a suitable way of interacting with it.

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I'm pretty sure the reason they haven't made contact with us is because we're made of meat.

Source: Terry Bisson, April 1991 (OMNI)

@georgetakei@universeodon.com The only thing that makes sense for alien sentient species to do is to trade intellectual property, and perhaps entertainment content. Traveling at or near speed of light may not be possible, but sending information is rudimentary. I bet they would enjoy watching Star Trek episodes a great deal, and I wonder what types of technology they would trade for each episode/film...

@georgetakei@universeodon.com They have their own "Prome Directive" and we are not ready for contact yet. The way we act, maybe never!

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@georgetakei@universeodon.com perhaps if someone specific would stop terrifying them :)