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https://old.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/140vbey/launching_rlemmymigration_what_communities_have/jmxnzsh/?context=1

Look at here and the people who complain about it being too hard to figure out are the ones complaining about "I can't use muh slurs, this is awful."

"The left of today is very much in favour of censorship to avoid “harm.” This makes those of us in the middle very wary of signing up to any partisan media." /u/decidedlysticky23

/u/misshapensteed claims he isn't far right, but explictly only posts on PoliticalCompassMemes and TheLeftCantMeme and KotakuInAction.

If they are too stupid to figure out we know they're lying, they're too stupid to figure out lemmy.

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[-] thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

My teenage son and I recently had a conversation about how the people complaining something is "too political" are the ones with a political agenda you have to watch out for. He pleasantly surprised me by being 2 steps ahead of me (he told me he liked the thing people were criticizing because of the political aspects).

Is there a Lemmy equivalent of r/SelfAwareWolves?

[-] king_dead@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

The fact that guys like that dont feel welcome on Lemmy is a testament to Lemmy getting it right. I think it differentiates itself from the awful social media clones of the past like Voat or Vidme. I'll leave it at that because we should probably shy away from outrage bait. As much as I'd like to i cant do anything about him and he is driving his buddies away from us

[-] Mars@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

The “centrists” that all all in favor of letting the oppressor and the oppressed talk their differences in a neutral playground are great.

Requires a level of love for the status quo and lack of reflection that never ceases to amaze.

Dude, you are not in the center. You are three steps from the neonazis and a thousand kilometers from the tankies. Even if you are opposed to the “extremes” and “mu horseshoe” yo are not equidistant.

[-] SveetPickle@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

I’m not that kind of communist so I won’t likely interact with lemmygrad but for the rest of lemmy I’m not concerned with the devs being tankies unless they lean hard into silencing disssenting views from the rest of the left like anarchists and other flavors of socialists

[-] interolivary@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

The beauty of the system is that they really don't have that power. It's open source and federated, so at most they can ban people from instances they run

[-] SveetPickle@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

True, it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth I suppose. Just another of the many many grey areas of life and trying to be as ethical as possible under a capitalist system

[-] interolivary@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah no disagreement there, as a non-auth leftist tankies really activate my almonds

[-] ClaySpears@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

It is funny how the only viable Reddit alternative I’ve found so far (here) isnt led by weird libertarian tech bros but communists lol

[-] bigbox@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don't understand the reddit users who are claiming they don't want to join Lemmy over political reasons. They could create their own instance with whatever rules they want and push whatever political agenda they want. The fact that the platform is decentralized means everyone can get with they want.

[-] GuyDudeman@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

They're just not smart enough to understand how it works.

[-] mainfrog@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

Would Lemmy embrace or allow /r/2ALiberals ? This is a topic I’ve been curious about.

[-] drone509@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

There already is one, it's just that nobody posts there atm. !guns and lemmygrad!firearms.

[-] teruma@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

On the one hand, I hate the right's bullshit. But, on the other hand, there was some comfort in having the ability to keep tabs on them. If they pick a different space, it'll be harder to anticipate what they're planning.

[-] Wigglet@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

They already have several. Vote, 8chan, 4chan, parler, telegram, truth spcial, pockets of reddit, and twitter now i guess. I can't think of as many leftist equivalents.

[-] alyaza@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

frankly i can only think of hexbear and raddle as even remotely comparable "spaces"--and you'd need to be pretty online to even know what those are. left-social media is just not a thing in the same way as it is for the right and far-right

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[-] ilgrandelenin@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Online commies are the absolute worst. They made me realize I was an anarchist all along. It's incredible how much time they spend being angry about pointless shit that no one cares about, like people using slurs online. They can't help it but act like tiny dictators whenever they get the chance, by ganging up on anyone who doesn't subscribe to their specific flavor of groupthink. And the thing that irks me the most is that it's not even about left or right. It's not about the poor or the rich, or the means of production, or people being exploited, or anything tangentially related to the economy. It's all social justice. American identity politics. Issues that become less and less tangible the further you get from the anglosphere.

And they live in their echo chambers, and whenever their worldview is challenged they start posting insane takes like "Lemmy being functionally dead is actually good because I can't get offended on behalf of someone else if no one is posting anything"

[-] DidacticDumbass@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago

This is the kind of dumb trash that makes me apolitical. Just like being athiest, I think having extreme beliefs that privileges abstract ideologies over real humanity activitely makes people less empathetic and more dangerous.

The breadth of the human experience is so much bigger than the desparate shouts of politicians and their distracted followers.

Even if communism in its platonic form is closer to a humane government system than capitalism, I still don't want to be constantly exposed to it.

Why, because political discussions are more concerned with complaining about a flawed system - AKA a flawed group of people erroneously granted too much power - than it is actually about solving problems.

[-] balerion@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Caring about humanity is why I care about politics, though. Politics is the vehicle through which humanity's fate is decided. If you don't participate in it, you allow people who do to run roughshod over you. Politics decides whether your country goes to war or not, whether people die in poverty or not, whether the climate apocalypse kills us all or not.

Note that by politics I do not necessarily mean electoralism. Voting is a stopgap measure at best. But there's much more to politics than voting and elections.

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[-] original_ish_name@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Nooooo! People have different opinions to me! They better not join Lemmy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[-] interolivary@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Bigotry isn't just a matter of someone having "different opinions."

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[-] anji@lemmy.anji.nl 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Not speaking for anyone but me, but sometimes when people say they something is too political it really means too much "extreme" political views. Personally I don't want to interact with extreme auth-left or auth-right content. I think politely discussing why access to housing should be guaranteed by government, or arguing for lower corporate taxes or whatever, isn't what bothers most people.

Fortunately Fedi allows instances who are fine with it host those users, and I don't have to see it. And Lemmy -the project- isn't political, it's just software for which I'm grateful to the devs.

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