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YouTube is loading slower for users with ad blockers yet again::YouTube users have noticed annoying delays and some features disabled when using ad blockers.

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[-] hywoid@lemmy.world 54 points 9 months ago

Stop using Chrome already.

[-] Frellwit@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The performance issues are because of Adblock and Adblock Plus: https://nitter.net/gorhill/status/1746263759495077919#m

It affects more sites than just YouTube.

[-] generic@iusearchlinux.fyi 31 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

People still use AdBlock Plus? I thought that was long since dead. You know, since they sold out and let companies pay them to show ads.

[-] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 13 points 9 months ago

not everyone keeps track of browser addon news, so... yeah? it's been a most recommended and recognizable ad blocker for a long time, so lots of people are probably still unaware of the changes after all those years and stick with it.

[-] anlumo@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

That piece of news is like a decade old. There are people on the net now that weren’t even born when AdBlock Plus turned to shit.

[-] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

again, you overestimate how much people are invested in addon news.

[-] n3cr0@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

That's straight the opposite of my experience. 🤭

[-] Dasnap@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

Changes like these are mostly A/B deployed, so it might eventually find itself to you.

...But I'm sure uBlock Origin will have put in a fix by that point.

[-] NuttyChunks@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

For those that are not aware, set your VPN to Albania and you will never see a YouTube ad again.

[-] beefontoast@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago
[-] Smokeless7048@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

presumably, it would be because ads are area dependent, and companies in Albania are not spending much on youtube ads.a

If you managed to get a VPN server on antarctica, you would likely see the same.

[-] beefontoast@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Yep.. only downside is all your search results are going to be in Albanian.

[-] Mrduckrocks@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

You can change region in duckduckgo manually, probably in goggle as well.

[-] maruudn@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

My biggest issue is circumventing ads on smart TV apps, 99% of my YT viewing is on a TV.

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

It's pretty easy

Just get YouTube premium

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Then you are part of the problem.

If no one bought that crap there wouldn’t be an insensitive for this psychological warfare.

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Imagine paying for content. What's the saying? If it's free you are the product?

Anyway, I paid long before the AdBlock crackdown.

[-] maruudn@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

Idk man, paying for YT premium feels like paying for an ad-free experience, not content. Like my subscription would be going to YT, not the creators who made the content.

[-] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

You forget that YouTube was always free in the before times of long long ago. Content was free and delivered flawlessly. Minimal ads. Maybe banner ads or something. Now it's ads every few minutes.

[-] kogasa@programming.dev 2 points 9 months ago

That's obviously not sustainable. At some point they need to recover expenses on all their infrastructure and development. It can either be through ads or a subscription model. Alternatively they shut down permanently. Which do you want?

[-] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 3 points 9 months ago

At this point, I'm fine with it shutting down. If it shut down, creators would go somewhere else, we could end up with something much better. i won't watch youtube if I have to watch minutes of ads before the video, and more throughout the video. Hard fucking pass.

[-] kogasa@programming.dev 2 points 9 months ago

Ok. Then stop watching instead of complaining. I don't watch ads either.

[-] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

They had paid for it for years. The sustainability relied on the range of services vs the service itself. For example, Walmart doesn't really profit on big tvs. Typically the markup is negative. They combat this with the price of add on devices, wall mounts, hdmi cables, etc. It's not a this or that for me. It's the choice of the company to change it up to be more profitable.

Let's be real, the point of a business is to make money. More money = more success, right? But what happens when you reach one billion dollars? Is one more billion more successful?

This is where my brain says fuck you. One billon means you've won. Stop being a greedy dick.

[-] kogasa@programming.dev 1 points 9 months ago

They had paid for it for years.

Yes. With the intent of making a profit eventually. Or they wouldn't have.

They combat this with the price of add on devices, wall mounts, hdmi cables, etc.

What is YouTube going to "combat" with if not advertising or subscriptions...?

This is where my brain says fuck you. One billon means you’ve won. Stop being a greedy dick.

One billion means nothing if you're spending tens of billions per year to continue operating. I'm not suggesting the CEO of YouTube deserves to get richer. I'm saying the company has operational expenses and investments that require some level of profitability, and "free for everyone forever" is literally just not a viable option.

[-] elephantium@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Alphabet spent $70 billion on stock repurchases last year. Their server costs aren't a problem.

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[-] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

YouTube is only one section of an entire corporation. Compare Walmart's entertainment department to the rest of the store. The company does profit.

Free forever was the whole premise of YouTube. That's why it was named You Tube. Users create content and host it. Ads were fine, the ads now are not fine.

The operational expenses were always covered by ads. Ads is Googles whole business model. They were successful when they were less intrusive, why do they need to do things this way and break up the videos when they have grown an empire on what was previously done?

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[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 3 points 9 months ago

I just bypass google entirely by hosting my own modified invidious instance and nuked my account.

Free, no clutter, blazing fast. Took maybe 20 minutes to setup.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Cheap android tv box (onn) install smart tube.

[-] maruudn@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

I don't live in the US so I don't have as easy access to random Android boxes like the ones on Amazon, but yeah I'll probably get one eventually. I have a Chromecast 4K, but I haven't really explored all the available apps yet. I'd love to be able to sideload apps, if I could get Grayjay on there that'd be awesome.

[-] beefontoast@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

If you get a fire stick from Amazon and load smarttube app (side loading) you can use that and all the adverts and sponsor sections will be blocked out of your YouTube viewing. You can login to your YouTube account also with the app.

[-] Havald@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Again? Hasn't changed for me since they started doing that in November. YouTube is quite annoying to use for me these days, the site takes forever to load and only starts loading when I switch to the tab. Best thing to do is adding everything to a queue, videos load normally then for some reason. As a result I'm using YouTube less though, so not necessarily a bad thing.

[-] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I’m not sure the YouTube heads really thought this through. I’m doing the exact same thing. I got a Plex setup and I’ve been watching more and more content on that instead of YouTube. I honestly don’t even miss it. When I eventually go back and try to watch something on a non-ad block device (Apple TV), it further underscores how shitty the service is getting. Longer and longer ads and it seems like they are slowly getting louder than the content.

[-] ililiililiililiilili@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Firefox + uBlock Origin + User Agent Switcher (set to Chrome). I did get the pop-up once saying they would cut me off. I cleared cache and browsing data and haven't seen the warning since. 🤞

[-] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 3 points 9 months ago

The only issue I have with YouTube is that while using an Ad blocker it doesn't track videos I have already seen in my subscriptions.

So it will tell me that I didn't watch a video I just watched.

A small price to pay for an ad free experience but a bit annoying still.

[-] Candybar121@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Don't worry, my youtube does manage to track my watch history, and yet it will still recommend me a video I've just seen anyway!

[-] anlumo@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Works fine for me with Ublock Origin.

[-] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 2 points 9 months ago

Interesting. I got to have a peculiar list activated in Ublock that breaks tracking of watched videos.

Thanks for the feedback.

[-] Rayquaza01 3 points 9 months ago

If your history isn't working, it's probably because you're blocking s.youtube.com. If you whitelist that, history should work again.

[-] cali_ash@lemmy.wtf 3 points 9 months ago

Still works fine with uBlock origin.

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