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[-] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 122 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't go down this route, painting all rednecks as Maga supporters is not fair to them or conducive to a good outcome.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago

And there are plenty of MAGA dipshits who aren't rednecks. If you watched the Mummers parade today, you saw a bunch of Delco bigots who wouldn't know a tractor from a turnip truck. But those guys sure looked pretty in their dresses.

[-] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Exactly, and a lot of the people who were at Jan 6 were from upper middle class suburban white america who flew in to DC taking time off from their cushy jobs to larp as revolutionaries.

[-] Tristaniopsis@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I had no idea what you were talking about but JFC what a cringy bunch of freaks. The Wikipedia article had photos that turned my stomach.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's a longstanding Philadelphia tradition with a problematic history of casual and overt racism.

[-] Tristaniopsis@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

It’s problematic just because of the stupid shit they’re wearing. WTF?!?!

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Some of the costumes are rather intricate and impressive. And then sometimes they're racist. People who defend the Mummers try to pretend the bigots have been removed and prohibited frim returning, but this year some bigots attacked the crowd while waving MAGA flag.

The musical acts are good, though. Lotta fun for the kids.

[-] Tristaniopsis@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I’m sure the kids love a spectacle but the aesthetic of it all makes feel physically ill.

[-] eya@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 year ago

It's a joke about Green Day's recent concert where they replaced the line "I'm not a part of the redneck agenda" with "I'm not a part of the MAGA agenda" in their song American Idiot.

[-] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Yep. I would say im pretty redneck and given the chance id kick him in his tiny orange cock.

[-] cyber_admin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

So redneck agenda is different from MAGA agenda? Do tell.

[-] lovely_reader@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Wtf is "redneck agenda," the farmers almanac?

[-] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Never thought about it. In hindsight "not part of a maga agenda" makes for much better lyrics.

[-] flicker@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

This slayed me. I'm going to start referring to my farmers almanac as my redneck agenda.

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

It also didn't work for Hilary in spectacular fashion.

[-] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[-] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Just carrying on the long long history of punishing the workers who dared take up arms to defend themselves a century ago.

Unlikely to change any time soon. That punishment has included the above derision, plastered all over all forms of media for decades. As well as generational economic punishment. GovCo shat on Appalachia from such a height they've never yet recovered and likely never will. Look at the response to the devastation from that hurricane.

Only people on this continent that got a worse hand are the indigenous and black folks in southern states.

[-] Just_Pizza_Crust@lemmy.world 74 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Cody Barlow ain't no bigot

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago

Fuck off no they ain't.

[-] lefaucet@slrpnk.net 38 points 1 year ago

This is some full-on stirrin'-somes-shit probably-russian/chinese-originated bullshit meant to divide folks up. Real rednecks would never hand their liberty to some two-bit lyin sack of shit New York Billionaire landlord's son swindler like Trump

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

Rednecks are historically left. Big on unions.

[-] db2@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Historically Republicans were instrumental in abolishing slavery. Today's version wants it back.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Mmmm political left and right don't align strictly on a union-supporting axis. Even left and right don't really mean much anymore, because the Conservative party isn't anchored to a specific set of ideologies the was Progressives are. A conservative will support a union when the union helps rhe conservative, will oppose the union when the union hurts the conservative, and will demonize the union when it helps them get elected by lathering up their base of voters.

Progressives support labor rights, equitable pay, and regulations that protect the safety and liberty of the worker. Progressives will support those ideals even when it does not help them directly.

Many people associate Communists and Socialists with the "left" and Libertarians and Free Market Capitalists with the "right". But there are conservative communists and progressive capitalists.

[-] StoneGender 4 points 1 year ago

Whaa? "Many people associate Communists and Socialists with the “left” and Libertarians and Free Market Capitalists with the “right”. But there are conservative communists and progressive capitalists." You can't be a conservative Communist, its oxymoronic, dito for the other one too. If you call yourself a communist and have conservative ideals u are not a communist and should change your believes or be removed for communist spaces. On the other hand if you call yourself progressive and support capitalism you aren't progressive as capitalism is inherently oppressive. You can call yourself whatever you'd like but you have to walk the walk too, to be it.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Of course you can be a conservative Communist. Most of China is both communist and conservative.

Ultimately, you can call yourself whatever you want.

[-] StoneGender 6 points 1 year ago

China is not communist, just like the Nazi party was not socialist. And yeah you can yourself whatever you'd like but that doesn't make it true. I can call myself a invertebrate but my bones are still on the inside

[-] aelwero@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Socialism is left/liberal as a concept (and so is capitalism, in actual fact)... It's not left/liberal when implemented at scale...

The arbiter of resources, whatever or whoever that may be, invariably becomes right/authoritarian. The simple nature of the arbitration causes it, and a truly left/liberal society would, by necessity, require a lack of said arbitration.

Such a society cannot exist at scale. History has proven that repeatedly. A left/liberal society could arguably only exist as anarchy, and frankly, capitalism is far closer to that than communism is. The "every man for himself" nature of capitalism is inherently more capable of providing individual liberty and equal opportunity than the "to each according to his needs", very simply because of the inherent requirement of having an entity judge that need... Said judging entity is inherently authoritarian in nature...

[-] Chetzemoka@startrek.website 28 points 1 year ago

Bullshit

I'm born and raised in Appalachia, my daddy worked in the coal mines and drove an 18 wheeler. Certified redneck enough that I confuse the shit out of my New England neighbors.

I went out and marched with striking nurses when Bernie put out the call, and I've never voted Republican in my entire fucking life.

OP, you need to learn what a redneck is.

I've been described by people as redneck, but I'm not remotely MAGA

...and therefore I support Green Day dunking on MAGA instead of me XD

[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

I live in Oklahoma, drive an Old Green Truck™, have a lazy dog of unknown breed, and I work in a machine shop. Last week my neighbor and I rebuilt a motorcycle engine and put it in his bike. My wife and I have chickens. I'm a pretty sterotypical "redneck".

I've voted democrat in every election since 2000.

It sounds like OP is terribly confused, and is associating people from two different groups while they really have nothing in common, which is something MAGA dipshits also do.

[-] Dr_Fetus_Jackson@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

It would appear that based blanket statements aren't the sole domain of MAGA shitbags.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

This isn't helping, and it isn't true.

[-] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

But musicians shouldn't get political! That song was never political before! Wah!

Heavy on the /s

[-] L0rd0fD3rp@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago
[-] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 points 11 months ago

Eat shit OP. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

[-] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 1 points 4 months ago

I’m a lefty to the bone and have been since I was a kid. I’ve spent most of my life in the south and have met some amazing redneck folks that don’t fit into this mold.

Basically, don’t put your potential working class allies into a box.

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