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[-] BillDaCatt@kbin.social 184 points 10 months ago

I think instead of saying "nobody is paying attention" it would be better to say that this kind of rhetoric makes him unfit to serve in any capacity.

His attempted insurrection has disqualified him from holding any elected office. He should not be on the ballot in any State. The only news that we should be reading about Trump is what a sad loser he really is and, in my opinion, has always been.

[-] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 70 points 10 months ago

The only news we should be reading is about him being behind bars, but unfortunately it seems he'll die before that ever happens

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[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

The only news that we should be reading about Trump is what a sad loser he really is and, in my opinion, has always been.

You and his dad have something in common.

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 20 points 10 months ago

His dad had a large part in creating him, and not just physically.

Imagine if your father gave you money for everything but zero love and compassion?

Dad begat a son who is even worse than dad ever was.

[-] WeeSheep@lemmy.world 146 points 10 months ago

By "nobody is paying attention" do they mean it's been plastered all over the news?

[-] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 69 points 10 months ago

And that his fans are paying full attention and eating up every word?

[-] youngGoku@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago

Yeah people are paying attention they love it. And the rest of us are paying attention and are disgusted.

The only people not paying attention are the Republican voters who don't care who the candidate is and just vote Red no matter what.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

People are paying attention, but most people aren't taking it anywhere near seriously enough. It's the equivalent of seing an armed nuclear warhead and thinking pistol.

[-] marx2k@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

What does taking it seriously enough look like?

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

I'm not sure exactly, but treating him as just another politician like the media is? That ain't it.

He's a cult leader at the head of a fascist uprising in the most powerful country in the world and most journalists are acting like it's pretty much business as usual.

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[-] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Many are taking it seriously, hence why there are so many posts about it here on lemmy and Reddit and other left leaning social medias. The problem is that his followers like his nazi rhetoric.

The nazi on The Boys was right “people like what I have to say, they just don’t like the word nazi”, although many Americans don’t even have that problem sadly…

[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 77 points 10 months ago

I've been saying it since 2015 so if you haven't noticed, that's on you.

[-] burliman@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It’s so crazy how obvious it was in 2015 too.

It had me wondering one day after hearing the umpteenth Trump supporter sing his praises… Do you think an appreciable number of people like you saw the same obvious things about Mussolini and Hitler before their rises? Do we have some advantage now having seen these people before in the last 100 years? Do we have more casual access to information and history, so it’s more obvious to us now?

Or is it this: They, like us, had simply not done enough to prevent their rise? Is it really “on you” or is it on all of us?

[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 20 points 10 months ago

I had history classes on both the rise of fascism and propaganda so it was definitely fresh in my mind while watching it happen. Many places don't teach these things though so it's not surprising to me really. I don't really see how there's anything we can do to prevent stupid people from being exploited, except through education. Can't teach someone who isn't willing to learn though.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 69 points 10 months ago

Everyone is paying attention. His opponents are horrified, and his fanbase is eating it up.

What do you want to have happen? SPLC to declare the RNC a hate group? Because that's never going to happen...

[-] 4grams@awful.systems 64 points 10 months ago

Remember when the GOP collectively lost its mind when they were called deplorable.

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 46 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The conservatives I worked with delighted in it. They called themselves deplorables for years. When someone tells you they are evil, believe them.

[-] ares35@kbin.social 11 points 10 months ago

four of them were stung by the truth, the rest didn't even know what the word meant.

[-] Starkstruck@lemmy.world 60 points 10 months ago

People are paying attention, unfortunately a lot of them like that he's increasingly Nazi

[-] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 53 points 10 months ago

"...and nobody is paying attention..."

This is something we read and hear about every single day. Not sure how much more attention we could give it.

[-] shadearg@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

The expert sounds like they are hoping that there are some adults within earshot that may suddenly wake up and rein him in.

It don't work like that in the really-real world unless it's extrajudicial.

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[-] Deestan@lemmy.world 46 points 10 months ago

Reality is scarier.

Trump's rhetoric is increasingly mirroring Nazi talking points, making him popular among Americans.

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[-] gerowen@lemmy.world 46 points 10 months ago

We're all paying attention, the problem is that those who vehemently support him just literally don't care and will vote for him anyway. He wasn't wrong when he made the comment that he could shoot somebody in the middle of the street and get away with it. He literally orchestrated and attempted coups and got people killed because he threw a temper tantrum and couldn't stand the thought of not getting his way.

[-] jerome@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago

We are, we can't jail or execute him. We have to wait and see if our justice system does it's job.

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 32 points 10 months ago

Which is to say, did he and the GOP damage it enough in the previous years to enable fascism to take control.

[-] Dhar@lemmy.ca 15 points 10 months ago

Don't worry, it won't.

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[-] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago

NoBoDy Is PaYiNg AtTeNtIoN!!

Is this dude for fucking real?

[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

As usual, centrists and news orgs who don't want to call out the fascism Nazi parade for what it is don't want to ostracize the potential Republicans who don't think they're Nazis by voting in Nazis.

Nobody's paying attention!!! Well, they are and you hear it loud and clear everywhere.

Democrats are horrified and disgusted, ready to fight tooth and nail. While Republicans are goose stepping their way through the Capital smearing shit on the walls trying to overthrow elections.

Gotta pretend like there's still good people voting in Nazis that might change their mind though! Not that they're voting in greasy BO old man shit smelling fascist dictators because they want fascist dictators.

And right on time! MiGrAnT CaRaVaNs are being peddled again.

[-] Stamau123@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Media putting on kids gloves for conservatives? Say it ain't so

[-] DarkGamer@kbin.social 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Trump kept the book of Hitler's speeches by his bed, his cousin would click his heels and greet Donald Trump with a heil Hitler. He got angry that US generals didn't treat him like the furher. None of this surprises me.

[-] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's not that people aren't paying attention, it's that the people who have to most power to do anything about it won't because they're either in his pocket already, or fearful of stirring up another insurrection

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

And the second group are wishfully thinking if they believe another attempt isn’t going to happen at all. Even if the fucker strokes out tomorrow I think a good hunk of the country would believe he was actually assassinated and make him a martyr.

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[-] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Trump isn't the only one. You have this trend all over the world. People know that it's looking like Nazi. But,

The government's inaction on foreseeable issues stemmed from a reliance on neoliberal principles, holding onto the notion that capitalism's magic would resolve all problems—a perspective maintained for the past three decades.

Trump and others are the solution that they didn't try. Plot twist, it won't change, Nazi were capitalist. But, it's like choosing between the worst and the really bad.

[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

Nobody in his sect is paying attention. The rest of the world is looking at this with anxiety.

[-] MightBe@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

This article would be more appropriate for the politics community, since it is an opinion article from the interview of Peter Simi regarding Trump.

I would not consider this as news.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 7 points 10 months ago

Yeah that's why newspapers refused to carry editorials, reader letters, and opinion pieces in general, because no one cares what the popular reactions to events are.

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[-] doublejay1999@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Don’t give them the click

[-] ansiz@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

"Nobody" as in the world at large isn't paying enough attention to the clown? He still gets plenty of coverage in the US! For his followers the more international attention Trump gets, the better, it doesn't matter what kind it is.

[-] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 10 months ago

I think that's exactly what's happened with Trump, is that deviance has been defined down in the sense that there's so much focus on, it's almost like an overload of sorts. The result is, you just don't see it — it's almost like he's kind of normalizing this on some level. Even as outrageous as he can be, it's been very difficult, I think, for people to maintain a consistent vigilance and see the threat that he represents because it's kind of overwhelming, really, in many respects.

Precisely why this article shouldn't exist. This article is normalising the behaviour. Reporton what he does, not what he says.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

We should ignore Nazi rhetoric? No thanks.

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[-] Snoozemumrik@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

I think the articles a out him smelling bad or having a piss fetish are stupid articles that don't need to get any attention. When he paraphrases Hitler? That's pretty relevant

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[-] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago
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[-] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

does not help when there are people not allowed to vote and the only other option is to vote biden who immediately went back on campaign promises such as firing staffers who were cannabis users

same person who ran with obama and chained someone to a chair for the sole reason she wanted the same rights as everyone else who was running for president and the same biden who is touting economic wins with a federal minimum wage of $7.25

this has been a problem before trump entered the stage and no trump did not make matters better

maybe the citizens should be allowed to hear from all the candidates and maybe who gets to be on the ballot should a federal issue and stop going state by state in a "united states" of america on every issue

[-] AquaTofana@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

Is this the same Biden that just pardoned a bunch of cannabis users from serving their sentences?

And the same Biden who on 1 Jan 24, nearly half the US states will have their federal min wage raised?

Look, there's plenty to criticize Biden for, mostly ALL of his Middle East actions (not just Gaza-Israel), but let's not pretend he's all bad and hasn't tried to help his own people domestically.

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