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AG Letitia James wins $740,000 settlement from online mental health provider Cerebral::Letitia James announced that her office obtained a settlement from an online mental health provider with a complicated cancellation process.

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[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago

There goes the budget for mints at the reception desk.

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Take as many as you like

[Stows away everything in man purse]

[-] Yoz@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago
[-] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

wow $33 for your troubles

[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Does that mean the service will be worse going forward. Potentially endangering lives

[-] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 70 points 10 months ago

Anyone with difficult to cancel services is trying to scam all customers eventually, like a bad gym or satellite radio. If they have to legally change their service structure, that sounds like an improvement.

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 51 points 10 months ago

Ah yes... Making the cancellation process easier for consumers means it must inherently become a worse service.

[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago

No I really think the person you are replying to means that because they will need to pay this settlement, then the company will have less money to provide the service hence endangering lives..like somehow it's this person's fault...

Won't anyone think of the corporations! /s

[-] JoBo@feddit.uk 45 points 10 months ago

Those boots must be real tasty.

[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

What boots. Care to elaborate your very punchy response

[-] xor@sh.itjust.works 41 points 10 months ago

"potentially endangering lives" is your main takeaway from a predatory online mental health corporation being held accountable for abusing their patients.
meaning, you're licking some corporate boots.
... you also missed the part where mental health corporations deceiving and abusing patients is definitely endangering lives.

[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I hadn't read the article when I commented. I read it and agree they were in the wrong. Doesn't change my question though. Obviously depending on if they care for mental unwell and would actually be involved in a reduction of suicide or not.

But you don't care about that. The mad flurry off comments is pretty damning.

Hope your new year doesn't require any mental help assistance.

I sure as shit wouldn't be helping you

[-] xor@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago

wow, you're a real piece of shit.

i was just explaining what you asked to have explained to you

mad flurry off comments, doesn't make any sense.

i see by your closing statements that caring about your fellow human isn't your main motivation and it is, indeed, all about worshipping corporations and polishing boots with your tongue.

i hope your new years helps you grow some thicker skin

[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Takes one to know one aye.

Indeed I may be a shit but. You are much worse. I care little for you and your kin. Can all perish for all I care. Why would I worship corporations. What a dilly thing to say. Corps are the scum of the Earth and have made humanity significantly worse. But you. You worse of all.

Maybe the filth you spew will come back to haunt you. Unlikely but a man can hope. Karmas a bitch and all that

[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 12 points 10 months ago

Try being less of a prick in 2024. You can do it.

[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago
[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 7 points 10 months ago

A swing and a miss.

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Takes one to know one aye.

not really. oh, and just because you got your feelings hurt by an internet stranger pointing out how your corporate bootlicking and fear-mongering makes you a shitty person (which you openly admit) doesn’t make them a shitty person for calling you out.

[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

You are a shit person. My feelings are very much intact. Why would I care what you or anyone else thinks of me.

Water of a sucks back.

Show me again where I'm a corporate shill ?

Scum that you are.

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago
[-] xor@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago
[-] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

If by "the service", you mean "online mental health providers", then no, the service will not get worse. Patients will be fine.

If by "the service", you mean "Cerebral's health services", then yes. They can collapse for all I care.

[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

As in with the settlement they pay out. They would have less money and can't staff as well. Was my point.

Kinda cunty on this aye

[-] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago

That money was ill gained. The court applied laws. That money is not theirs now. What kind of hellscape are you advocating?

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

If they choose to take the money away from the services budget instead of CEO pay, then that's on them.

[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

True. Suppose they could do that. They won't but sure

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

And I hope that gives the ethical competitors a foothold in their ass.

[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

What's ethical in corporate America

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

What a weird take. The company was breaking NY law by making cancellation of their service nearly impossible and faking reviews. This settlement forces them to refund people they defrauded and follow the law.

Are you saying healtchare businesses should be exempt from laws because "service will be worse" if they follow them?

Why would letting people cancel a subscription service easily "potentially endanger lives?"

[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

No. I never once said or insinuated that

[-] ghostsinthephotograph@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I'd insert some quote about fear here, but I don't know a good one off-hand. In any case, I don't believe it to be a good excuse.

[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Can you elaborate a bit ?

It's not a good excuse. Was just a question

[-] 11181514@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

You didn't ask a question. You made two statements implying that holding this company accountable for illegal actions, robbing people of money, is harmful.

Go fuck yourself.

[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

No fuck you. Do you work in mental health. ? No. Then fuck off.

Do you have people killing themselves on the other fucking line ? No

Fuck off

I do not condone corporations, I do when loves are put at risk. That I then have to deal with.

[-] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I wasn't advocating for the service. I asked who this service put peoples lives at risk. I condone all that you mentioned. It's obviously a terrible service. However if it kept people alive then the food outweighed the bad.

These comments these people don't understand mental health. Or maybe they do. Who's to say. I contract for mental health charity. Do t even get minimum wage. We aren't fully trained and have 1 phone line.

Yet I've talked down dozens of people in crisis and one on a roof. Service doesn't charge and it's not this corporate bullshit.

Fuck the CEO and the practice. However if it kept one person all be who otherwise would have died. ? In the any case. Fuck y'all.

See you next year

[-] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I contract for mental health charity. Do t even get minimum wage. We aren’t fully trained and have 1 phone line.

That is obscene; people in crisis deserve so much more. THANK YOU for doing what you do. I hope your goodness to others in need finds its way back to you, multiplied, and that your new year gives you all that you have hoped for it.

[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

It's a charity. Government don't pay shit. They don't care.

I just keep people from killing themselves. Even then I don't really do anything. It's generally very easy because people inherently don't want to die.

They want the suffering to stop. If anything what we do is worse by keeping them alive we solve none of those problems.

Also I don't do much at all. Mostly it's run by volunteers and I just deal with crisis calls and active suicides.

[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago
[-] vzq@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Was just a question

The useful idiot’s rallying cry!

[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago
[-] vzq@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

It’s not meant as an insult. It’s an intelligence term of art.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot

But yes, I also think you are a plain old regular idiot too.

[-] wikibot@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Here's the summary for the wikipedia article you mentioned in your comment:

A useful idiot is a person perceived as propagandizing for a cause—particularly a bad cause originating from a devious, ruthless source—without fully comprehending the cause's goals, and who is cynically being used by the cause's leaders. Erroneously attributed to Vladimir Lenin, the term was often used during the Cold War to describe non-communists regarded as susceptible to communist propaganda and psychological manipulation. Similar terms also exist in other languages.

^article^ ^|^ ^about^

[-] ABCDE@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

No, it wasn't, and you know it. It's very transparent.

[-] wagoner@infosec.pub 3 points 10 months ago

Do you have a better way?

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