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[-] Kit 97 points 10 months ago

Fuck that, her mother deserved it and I'm glad that Gypsy will finally be free. What she did was self defense through and through. It's heart breaking that her (now ex) boyfriend is in jail for life because of this.

[-] Yamainwitch@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago

Agreed, any mother that would medically torture their own child for years is irredeemable in my book. That being said, I'm glad Gypsy Rose is being released because she should not have been jailed in the first place. She was painted into a corner by her mother when she was "declared unfit" if she called the police they would have likely assumed she's an unreliable witness. That being said, it's awful that her ex is paying the price for her freedom. This to me seems like an open and shut case of "crime of passion" and the sentence doesn't reflect that, at all. It's a terrible situation all around.

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

It's not heartbreaking...they had the option to go the police and instead chose murder. HE wasn't acting in self defense

[-] Seleni@lemmy.world 127 points 10 months ago

You’ve never gone to the cops with a problem before, have you?

[-] popcap200@lemmy.ml 61 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"Thanks. We'll send extra patrols. Sorry that happened. Have a good day!"

[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 42 points 10 months ago

"Look, what do you expect us to do about it? We're really busy and your complaint isn't going to boost our revenue at all."

[-] Seleni@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

If you’re lucky. If you’re not, you get Jeffery Dahmer’d.

[-] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

About12 hours ago as I'm posting this I was driving home from work with my parents a few minutes behind me, were gonna do Xmas this weekend. It's raining hard.

Someone with no lights on is barreling down my lane, I almost don't see him in time to swerve and honk. As I do so he very clearly swerves out and then back in (like he's trying to PIT me) and then returns to my lane once he misses me

I immediately dial 911 and after being on hold for 6 minutes all they said was "well get someone to that intersection"

Like, did you not fucking hear me? The guys doing 70, he's not at this intersection anymore!

"Well tell patrol, good night"

Parents confirmed he was still trying to kill people as he went down the road

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

You're right, the solution was murder

[-] Seleni@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago

Sadly yes, when the law fails. See Jeffery Dahmer for when someone in need tried to rely on the police for help.

[-] pm_me_your_quackers@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Recently a domestic abuse victim was shot by the cops. Maybe the person you're replying to is just suggesting this victim just fucking dies instead?

[-] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago

They didn't try that before calling the cops!

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

She was 24. I'm suggesting she fuckin leaves instead. He could have picked her up and cut contact while they sorted it out. They could have contacted an abuse center or a women's shelter. But no, they had to kill her I guess.

She had a psychologically abusive childhood so I gave her a pass but he didn't. He has no excuse for thinking first degree murder was the only option. You're all crazy for defending him.

[-] wahming@monyet.cc 13 points 10 months ago

Her decision to have Dee Dee killed came after she'd tried to run away ahead of yet another needless procedure, this time on her larynx. "I just wasn't having it," says Gypsy, who claims she fled her home, only to be tracked down within hours. "She found me, brought me back and put in place paperwork saying I was incompetent and she had power of attorney over me."

I see you didn't read the article

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I did read the article. Hence why I said her boyfriend should pick her up. Her mom found her within HOURS. Teenagers successfully runaway without help all the time.

[-] wahming@monyet.cc 1 points 10 months ago

I'm referring to 'abuse center or woman's shelter'. How, exactly, is she going to be able to stay anywhere or obtain any help when the mum already managed to get her declared witless and rightless? And that's setting aside the question of whether she had the physical freedom and ability to escape again. Given the circumstances it's not unreasonable to think she might be locked up.

[-] ZombieTheZombieCat@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

There's a documentary and a dramatized show about her life on Netflix. CPS had been there. Doctors had suspected Munchausen's but couldn't do anything. Their neighbors knew something was wrong but couldn't prove anything. What she did isn't necessarily justifiable. But "they should have gone to the cops" is ignorant af.

[-] Fisk400@feddit.nu 4 points 10 months ago

She wasn't acting in self defence either. With his help they were fully capable of just running away. If they needed something from the house they could have just robbed her. There need to be some good faith effort to escape a situation before resorting to murder, but they chose to kill her out of hate and that should land you in jail or we all go mad max.

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Finally someone with some sense in this thread. I was being generous giving her a pass for sure but I was trying to differentiate the situations - she was abused but the boyfriend has NO excuse for committing murder. It's crazy to defend him.

[-] Fisk400@feddit.nu 2 points 10 months ago

Everyone is the punisher when behind a keyboard.

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I'll bet it the mom was on trial, none of these people would be advocating for the death penalty.

[-] quindraco@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

He was acting in defense of another, which is morally equivalent. She was used to being mistreated by authority figures (her mother, every single doctor...) - why would she trust armed authority figures?

[-] Belgdore@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

She did deserve it. It would have been better if they would have gone through the proper criminal procedure process, and that would not have left the former boyfriend in prison. But what happened is better than the situation she was in continuing until she died.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 62 points 10 months ago

I’m happy that she’s getting released, but there are probably a lot of other people stuck in prison for crimes that they committed out of desperation. It’s like the Gabby Petito situation, where young white women get a lot of attention for things that happen to other people who get completely ignored.

[-] ZzyzxRoad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

While I agree for the most part, you don't think that maybe in this case it's because:

It involves Munchausen's by proxy which is a pretty rare diagnosis,

She endured years of horrific medical, mental and physical abuse by the mother which brings up some serious moral questions in terms of what else she could have done to escape,

She didn't actually commit the murder, it was the boyfriend she met online who is intellectually disabled and is now serving a life sentence.

Idk, that sounds like enough to make a headline without her gender or skin color brought into it.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Doesn’t necessarily need to be munchausen, plenty of people kill their abusers and get locked up for it. People get abducted and their bodies aren’t found in state parks, it doesn’t need to match the original story 100%

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago

Jesus fuck that was a depressing read.

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago
[-] chtk@feddit.nl 6 points 10 months ago

There's a miniseries as well. The Act (2019).

[-] MyDearWatson616@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

A mother who named her daughter Gypsy Rose turned out to be unfit? If only there had been some kind of sign that she was unwell...

[-] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 19 points 10 months ago

Aren't we supposed to call them Roma now?

[-] ArcticAmphibian@lemmus.org 4 points 10 months ago
[-] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

That's unfortunate

[-] theangryseal@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I know a woman like her mother. She has crippled her own children and made them all dependent on her entirely. Her oldest is in his 40s now.

She made a junkie out of him when he was a preteen. She’d send him out to sell her oxycodone. “If you don’t get at least 40 of these sold I won’t give you any and you’ll have to deal with that.”

That only worked for so long until he started stealing them all. He’s been in and out of jail. “What would you do without mommy? Who would bail you out?” Of course she still supplies his habit enough to keep him dependent and takes only what she needs to take to have them in her system for a doctors visit.

She told the next kid she was schizophrenic. Had her on meds and totally dependent. Once her daughter had a son, she convinced her to sign over her rights and let her go. Her son thinks she’s his sister. Now she’s the “bad kid who ran off and left us to fend for ourselves.”

Her third child was a brilliant kid, super intelligent, but he’s been convinced he has schizophrenia too. He’s in his 30s now and had lost all of his teeth by 25. Still lives with mom and she won’t let him out of her sight. He’s also a junkie who is supplied entirely by her.

The grandson was twice as smart as her last kid. He could’ve been anything he wanted to be. Instead, he’s “schizophrenic” too and entirely dependent on his grandma. High functioning autistic, maybe. Schizophrenic, no fucking way.

It breaks my heart thinking about them.

The oldest is an insanely talented guitarist, but he’s a slave to his mother and never had a chance to be anything but what she wanted.

I would bet the daughter ends up living back at home too if she isn’t already.

Their father died from cancer when they were very young and she just lost it and did everything she could, the wrong way, to keep them close.

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

On top of verbal abuse, Gypsy claims Dee Dee began "hitting, punching, slapping" her to get her way. "It was very similar to a domestic violence type of relationship," she says. "As long as you're complacent everything's fine. Put your foot down, then it's bad."

That's it similar to domestic violence. It is domestic violence.

As for the rest of it, Gypsy and like a better person than me. I don't think I could regret ending the years and years of torture that woman did.

[-] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

No, she deserved it

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