IDK, if this community has any hope of being anywhere near as comprehensive in coverage as the News Subreddits were its going to take some superusers.
if this community has any hope of being anywhere near as comprehensive in coverage as the News Subreddits
I left Reddit on purpose.
I would rather have quality than volume.
I would rather my news feed be diverse than dominated by one or two self-appointed influencers of discourse. (Even if they have good intentions.)
I approve of this rule. Ten articles per person each day is more than enough at this stage, and the threshold for "too much" can always be adjusted as the community grows.
I get why these mods didn't like that users posts but this is such a dumb way to to put in a prevention rule. Especially when they even admit it wasn't spam.
Why artificially limit how much people can interact to get traffic to a community?
Just like if you saw the front page filled only with articles from the same source, seeing the front page filled with posts by the same username gives the impression that someone is pushing an agenda.
I mentioned this myself in a post I made regarding Myanmar, I have a personal angle on that and if it seems like I yammer on too much about Myanmar, feel free to tell me to shut up. :)
I saw different sources but feels more like a lack of others posting issue rather than just someone pushing an agenda
This community censors Al Jazeera posts by calling them "duplicates" and leaves up the least anti-Israel post.
I highly doubt it cares about being comprehensive in coverage
It's also really obvious when they're all from the same news source or very closely related ones.
I only post a couple a day at most, but I also try to vary the news sources I'm using, so I'm not just promoting one news organization's stance.
Even alternating sources, it's still a reflection of that users opinion of what they feel is important and needs promotion... So, yeah. 19 is a bit much.
19 articles still seems like reasonable usage to me. Spam or abuse would probably be a bit higher than that and likely include off topic and duplicate links.
That was the question I put to the other mods... "Heyyy... we don't exactly have a rule for this, 19 seems like a lot..."
We collectively decided on 10, but this is all new, it might change!
The prime focus is making sure no single user dominates the front page. How big the "front page" is varies by app though.
Posting a shit ton of full text news articles is gonna get the instance DCMA’d
What is the difference between one person doing it 20 times and 20 different people doing it once?
I didn’t say either was good/better/whatever. Regardless of who’s doing it, if the news forums here just start posting full text articles like crazy, eventually the instance will get smacked down for it.
I dunno. I personally have no problem with someone just copying what's posted on Reddit here.
At least until there's more engagement.
Posting full articles is probably not great, but the number of posts per time unit probably shouldn't be limited unless it's causing a technical issue. It's news content. That's why we're subscribed.
Maybe poster is out of work right now, following the news closely, posting what seems important. Surely 10-100 important news items happen each day.
In my opinion the volume of posts isn't the problem, but copy pasting full text from a site is the issue.
Copy/pasting the full text of an article breaks the rules at the lemmy.world level, that's already been accounted for in the Sidebar rules.
Is this about that account called "nonaturalgas" or something? Anyway somehow that one always felt off . So good job.
Correction: it's name was naturalgasbad and he was also banned. Some other poster stated he posted several pro China articles a day.
No, they only posted twice that I'm aware of.
This one isn't about the quality of the links, the links themselves appear to be fine, it's just the sheer volume.
To give you some idea, I moderate some smaller communities and I personally feel like I'm dominating the conversation if I post more than 3 links in a day...
Roll over to World News and I see 19... 🙄
They told me they were banned because they kept citing the Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart and the mods here preferred the Media Bias Fact Check ratings.
Please don't assume their gender. This is basic etiquette.
They were banned because after they were banned for abusing the report feature, they continued arguing with me through a series of PMs when they were told to stop arguing with a mod, repeatedly.
The ban increased from 3 days for abusing reports, to 7 days for arguing, then 30 for not stopping, then finally a permaban.
They were warned and given every opportunity to stop.
They're telling me they were reporting articles which didn't match the community's policy on reliability according to MBFC credibility crating and that the moderator in question refused to respond constructively.
Edit: I don't have the DMs from either side, which might help tell the story lol
They were reporting sites like the Washington Post which is a newspaper of record with a high credibility rating.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-post/
When the links they posted which were removed were from the South China Morning Post.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/south-china-morning-post/
Basically they wanted to post Chinese propaganda and got butthurt that they weren't allowed to.
SCMP is considered pretty reliable by most Western media outlets. It's still used as a source for Reuters news wires and Associated Press articles. It's still banned in mainland China for being too "edgy" or whatever, and the Hong Kong government still bars them from many events for "security reasons." It's still used by the Canadian Armed Forces College in their news feed SOMNIA. It's used by Bloomberg, which many financial folks over on State Street use as a source to trade billions of dollars on.
Their op-eds are more, well, opinionated and editorialized than in the past, but anybody submitting op-eds to a news community needs to reconsider doing so in the first place. If you evaluated WaPo or the NYT solely off of their op-eds, you'd think you were reading a rag like the Daily Mail.
If Reuters, Associated Press, Bloomberg, and the Canadian Armed Forces rely on SCMP, what makes the moderators of this community think they know better?
Because a) it was reported as a suspicious source and b) upon examination was found to be "Mixed for factual reporting due to poor sourcing".
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/south-china-morning-post/
That is not an issue other sites that we do allow have. The decision has been made. It's not up for debate.
When the links were removed, the user was not banned and simply told to choose better sources. They went on a rampage reporting posts from known reliable sources resulting in a 3 day ban from a separate mod for abusing the report feature.
All of this was explained to the banned user who kept arguing and arguing in PMs and was told to stop, which resulted in increasing their bans over and over as they persisted until they were finally permanently banned.
In the end, their behavior in PMs showed the banning was appropriate. You don't get anywhere arguing with mods.
Are you sure it wasn't a bot?
It didn't look like a bot, and it wasn't technically spam.
Let's see if we can make this place better.
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