At their "cheapest" 0.099 euro / $0.11 USD tier it is already literally cheaper per page (albeit certainly not faster) for me to print documents as 8.5x11" 0.1mm thick single layer slabs of plastic on my 3D printer.

An entire "blank" page, i.e. no cutouts for text or anything, would be about 0.754 grams of plastic. That's about $0.0143 per page at a not-too-exorbitant retail cost of PLA filament ($18.99 USD for a kilo) and the material usage would be even less once the negative space for text is subtracted. And I don't even have to buy the paper.

That's mind boggling. Apparently I'm in the wrong racket.

Get a Brother laserjet.

Holy shit, .15 euros per page? Why not just run to der Kinkos? I haven’t checked but I imagine it’s cheaper there. I get the convenience of having a printer at home but this is like if every cup of coffee you make at home cost you the Starbucks $8.25.

Brother printer gang printing with their tears of joy.

Jesus fuckin Christ I was today years old when I learned about HP Instant Ink. Good gracious what a scam

Easy. Never buy HP. Their printers are shit and so are their laptops.

It amazes me that there are so many people who buy a printer, are offered this "pay $x a month for Y pages" type of plan, and say yes. I mean, sure, HP sucks, but they wouldn't be able to get away with such slimy business practices if there weren't so many people willing to pay.

If you still own a HP printer, it's your own fault. Sorry. Got an Canon with liquid refill, loved it, equipped my company with it & recommended it to everyone I know. It's not even expensive & the quality is impeccable. Plus: no problems whatsoever over Linux.

EDIT: CANON, not Epson. I'm distracted sometimes. Canon PIXMA G4511, sub 300 Eur.

Breaking news: Printer company behaves like printer companies always have. User hostile.

hahahaa i recently dumped them for a big, sturdy, traditional, offline Brother laser. it's ridiculous how much more satisfying it is to print, especially without HP breathing over your shoulder counting how many pages you've printed in the last billing period

So the plan dictates how many pages you can print each month? Feck no! I own a Brother laser printer and I’m so glad I escaped the HP madness years ago.

Just making it easier not to buy one!

Being boycotting this shitstain company since Carly Fiorina turned it into a perfect example of peak 1990's MBA management style (the kind that killed companies like GE) and, once again, I get to pat myself on the back for it.

Almost 20 years of regular smug self-satisfaction for free is a pretty good investment.

Ink subscription is a bad descriptor

You pay per page, if you have extra ink leftover then you don’t have access to it

If like me you don't print much but still need a printer occasionally, get a laser printer (possibly a scanner multifunction, since it can be handy to scan your receipts), and just buy your cartridges normally. Laser toner won't dry up like ink does, so you end up paying less for your infrequent prints in the long run.

Wow, what a scam!

You know why all of the printer companies are so shitty? It's because they're in the business of selling printers. That's why they break and cost so much to maintain. You know why the sewing machine company sells printers that work? Because they accidentally let some of their sewing machine engineers make printers.

Seriously, fuck HP.

HP actually has a brilliant business strategy.

1. First get a huge customer base via cheap ass product

2. Remove the customers who care about quality

3. Remove the customers who care about reliability

4. Remove the customers who care about price

5. Remove the customers who pay attention to their monthly bills

voila, you have like 3 people left who you can charge infinite money for a lump of shit. Infinite profit margins

I've seen a lot of recommendations for Brother, I want to add one for Ricoh.

I bought a B/W laser printer from Ricoh (213w IIRC) a decade ago for under 40 bucks and a new generic, no-name Amazon toner refill for 25 like 5 years ago. Printed thousands of pages, just sitting in a corner under the stairs.

Bonus: it uses Wi-Fi (so anyone in the house can print) and is compatible with generic PCL drivers in Linux.

The only thing that still might save printers is competition.

I will never buy or recommend HP printers ever again. If you need a general printer, Brother all the way now.

Are these posts about HP just a way for Brother to advertise in the comment section

I mean I'm definitely cancelling my HP subscription, but still. It's a lot.

Who the fuck keep buying HP in 2023 when there are lots of other brands available in the market?

The number of papers that subscribers are allowed to print...

hahaha

It's literally cheaper for me to drive to a local printing shop, pay for parking, and drive back, than buy one of these dogshit HP printers, and then get scammed by their ink cartridges

This is yet another reason why I would not buy or recommend HP printers anymore. My ancient laserjet from 10 years ago is still going strong, but if it ever kicks the bucket, I'm getting a Brother. They seem to just work without any hassle.

HP selling hardware with digital blackmail fees

I am guessing people aren't printing as much as they used to and the prices will just go up eventually.

Also, fuck printers, and HP specifically.

Cannon has gotten so bad, that I can't remember what printer brand I hated before them. I am pretty sure it was cannon though.

Subscription-based hardware business models, or anything that is cloud-based have a strong tendency to do this. They sucker you into buying their hardware with rock bottom prices and reasonable subscription fees and slowly they increase the prices and put more and more features and functionalities behind increasing paywalls.

Never buy anything that you don't fully own after paying for it.

My brother laser jet still happily prints.