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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/linux_gaming@lemmy.world

(The "Windows" slices of the pies are entirely made up by Baldur's Gate 3, which also runs well over Linux)

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[-] neatchee@lemmy.world 275 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The issue has never been that games can't run on Linux. It has always been a simple question of "will the games I want to play run?" More than ever, that answer is yes, but if your favorite game doesn't, or if you never want to worry about "will this upcoming (online) game let me play on Linux?" then you use Windows by default.

Like, I love y'all, but the Linux gaming community on Lemmy is kinda insufferable with the straw-man "people think games can't run on Linux" argument. That's just not the issue

[-] Red_October@lemmy.world 63 points 10 months ago

This has been my concern too. It's great that we're seeing some specific cases where Linux benchmarks faster than Windows, but that doesn't mean a damn thing if the one thing I'm trying to play just full on won't work.

Telling me that I can just also run Windows is counterproductive. If Windows will do everything I want, and Linux will do only some of what I want, now you're trying to sell me on increased complexity and difficulties and learning a whole new system, without actually getting rid of the problems that come with running Windows in the first place.

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[-] Alk@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

Exactly. If even one of my games doesn't run, it's already a pain in the ass. Might as well stay on windows so I don't have to deal with the headache. They all run on windows. I'll switch when they all run on Linux.

[-] 73ms@infosec.exchange 23 points 10 months ago

way back the issue most certainly was that though. There was a time when trying to run games with wine was a frustrating exercise that only resulted in a success in small minority of cases... which meant the answer was almost certainly negative when accounting for the additional restriction of trying to run the games you actually wished to be playing. Not everyone may remember this of course.

@neatchee @linux_gaming

[-] spudwart@spudwart.com 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The issue is they want to run rootkits and malware instead of games.

Not sorry. Siege, Fortnite, Valorant, all of these games require kernel level access to Windows to run, and the publishers refuse to support Windows.

The only reason I'd ever play games like this in the past is due to peer pressure from friends to play these shitty games together with a bunch of sweats, cheaters and an overall generally toxic community. Especially Siege.

Social peer pressure goes both ways. And I've basically peaced out on any of these games in my friends group. That was enough to end that game for game nights, and as those games fade from our memory. I make sure what little memory of it remains is the true tainted and awful form from which they originated.

If you need a kernel level anti-cheat for your game, and nothing else will protect it. Your game is shit, your development cycle is shit, your company is shit, your community is shit, and why would I ever want to play a shit game with shit people from a shit company that forces devs to work under a shit development cycle?

[-] Alk@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

That is not, in fact, the issue. I don't play any of those games and still can't play all my games on Linux. I don't allow kernel level anticheats on my system.

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[-] CheesyFox@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

well, thanks to Gaben, new games working fine

[-] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 29 points 10 months ago

That’s why they specified online, because the cancer that is Easy-Anti Cheat has a teeny tiny checkbox saying “allow linux users” that is rarely if ever checked.

[-] CheesyFox@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

dunno, if we're talking about easy anti-cheat, i've played insurgency: sandstorm, war thunder and hunt: showdown. Not a lot of games, but none of them had any issues

[-] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Halo MCC was fixed too and now that works without issues online. It is good fun.

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[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

If only one could have two OS on one machine and somehow boot into the one you want to play a game on.

[-] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 27 points 10 months ago

Sure, but at the point you’re doing that the allure is lost on a lot of folks.

Why boot to two when they only want to play a game and one does it without needing the other.

This is an answer to a question that wasn’t posed.

[-] Ethanice 19 points 10 months ago

All the inconvenience of Linux with all the inconvenience of Windows. You might as well throw MacOS on there, too.

[-] Red_October@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

It's so weird, usually it's Mac users saying that to me.

[-] franklin@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

It's a hassle, most people are one size fits all

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[-] guacupado@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

"Linux is great for gaming. You only need to follow these 25 kernel configuration steps to combine three 3rd party applications and it runs just fine!"

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[-] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 70 points 10 months ago

I've been 100% Linux for over a year now. If it doesn't run, I don't buy it.

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 30 points 10 months ago

That's the attitude that we all need to have. Same here, if anything doesn't work on Linux, I ain't buying it.

[-] YerbaYerba@lemm.ee 18 points 10 months ago

I even got a refund from steam when rocket league lost Linux support when that one company bought it

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[-] M500@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago

That’s how I’ve been for a few years now. Windows has serious bugs that I encounter all the time that I never encounter with Linux.

Just this week alone… screenshots stopped working, usb microphones were stuck on mute, and the taskbar crashed preventing me from using any touchpad gestures or even accessing the start menu to restart.

The task bar was fixed with a restart but the other two issues required a reinstall of the os. I troubleshot those for like an hour without any solution.

[-] FreeBooteR69@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Windows is not ready for the desktop.

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[-] Dickarus@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago

Is this Lemmy's version of Reddit's "pc vs console" I've been seeing this a lot lately. Why are you all so obsessed with who plays on what and what their opinions are?

[-] sparr@lemmy.world 58 points 10 months ago

Because more people playing on Linux means more games get published for Linux, which is an outcome we want.

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[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 29 points 10 months ago

Because we want things to be better for everyone.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago

I just want more games to work on Linux, and more marketshare gets devs interested. I don't care what specific people use, just that enough use Linux to grow marketshare.

Use what you want, but I'll encourage anyone who is interested to give it a try.

[-] activ8r@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago

Huh. Yes, that's exactly what it is.
Good shout.

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[-] MaryTzu@aussie.zone 27 points 10 months ago

I love Linux but it really does need more VR support.

[-] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 12 points 10 months ago

And racing sims. I was talking to someone on Bluesky and they said the lack of racing sim gear support is holding them back.

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[-] Dremor@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago
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[-] Mawkey@kbin.social 21 points 10 months ago

I'm at 50 / 50. Went 100% Linux 6 months ago and never looked back. Didn't even bother with dual booting, it's all in or nothing.

[-] aniki@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

One of us! One of us!

Windows is an abomination.

[-] Kaelygon@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

There are still a lot of proton games where I encounter the weirdest bugs and when I report those the game devs don't do anything about it and say it's a proton/linux issue what they don't support. For some games, especially VR, windows is mandatory.

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[-] SquirtleHermit@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Linux Gamers - "Sure am stoked that gaming on Linux has gotten so good, finally don't feel like I need to keep Windows"

Randos - "Wow, such copium! It didnt work for my specific use case! Linux users are so obnoxious!"

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[-] dinckelman@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I won’t claim that it’s all flawless, because it really isn’t sometimes, but a lot of things just work. Both new games, and old ones, that don’t even work on windows to begin with.

My biggest two showstoppers are games like Destiny, and VR titles, that unfortunately are completely unplayable because I own a Rift S.

I still play practically everything else on Linux, and don’t see any reason to not to. I already do everything else on this os, so why would I switch

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[-] DJalexTheGameDev@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

100% penguin

[-] xarexyouxmadx@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Just Linux for me..I haven't used windows since windows 7. I'm probably going to sell my steam deck though because it mostly just sits in the case on top of my computer (where I usually play since my computer is plugged into my 50 inch bedroom TV. But the stream deck is nice and fun to play with.

1000000055

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[-] Killercat103@infosec.pub 11 points 10 months ago

I didn't get the "You played on more than 1 device". Guess it has been 100% Linux

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[-] Grass@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago

Mine has some windows time from testing someone's computer after reinstalling.

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[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

I was very confused because this chart didn't show up for me... then I realized that I'm 100% Linux and showing it would've been pointless.

Still, I'm very proud of it. Barring some games with arbitrary rootkit restrictions (suck my ass, Tim) and Adobe products (but Adobe can burn and die, so whatever), I've been able to completely transition to Linux.

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