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[-] anlumo@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago

I'll never understand why he intentionally let himself be captured by Russia. The outcome was inevitable.

[-] ANIMATEK@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He is so notorious because he was willing to selflessly put himself in the frontline to prove a point.

[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

That doesn't make any sense, but okay.

[-] Risk@feddit.uk 35 points 1 year ago

Martyrdom. Navalny knew what it would mean to return; he also knew the risk of not returning (constantly trying to avoid shitty assassination attempts with collateral damage).

[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I mean, you don't have to be convicted to be a martyr.

Look at Snowden.

[-] Plopp@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Speaking of... When was the last time we heard from Snowden? Haven't seen his name in the media since basically the start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

[-] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

probably keeping his head down trying not to be used as a pawn in the cross politics of the US and russia

[-] Heresy_generator@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

LMAO. Yeah, that's why he ran to hide under Putin's skirt; because he didn't want to be used as a pawn in Russian propaganda.

[-] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He was headed from Hong Kong to Latin America with a connecting flight in Russia when the US cancelled his passport.

The fact he was stuck in Russia was entirely incidental

[-] Heresy_generator@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's the story he tells, at least. He just so happened to fly to Moscow alongside a Kremlin intelligence asset the day after his US passport was revoked and then, oopsie, he had to stay there; never you mind that there were direct flights from Hong Kong to Ecuador, he had to go through Moscow to get there because... reasons.

[-] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

citation needed

[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

He usually ends up in the news for shilling Signal.

[-] Risk@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

I don't know whether it had a significant impact in Russia, but the rest of the world only knows/cares about the guy because he went back. Otherwise he'd just be yet another person murdered by Putin's regime.

[-] acutfjg@feddit.nl 6 points 1 year ago

The only thing not making sense is how you're not understanding the concept.

[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I guess you're right.

Maybe he did have a greater impact getting poisoned, imprisoned, and 'defenestrated' than he would have had outside of Russia.

Time will tell, I won't hold my breath.

Personally, I think you're just finding ways to agree with the crowd even if they're wrong. I don't hold most people above that behavior.

[-] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
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[-] Rubezahl@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

A regime like Putin's is stable until it suddenly is not. Russia has a lot of dark times ahead of it.

[-] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Russians honestly are mostly waiting for those times; chaos is frightening, but stable decline into a dystopia is even worse.

Besides, keeping on with "stable" regime means losing many, many lives; possibly way more than a radical change can entail. But that depends on who and how comes to power.

[-] extant@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Hopefully he disappeared because someone thinks he might make for a good replacement of someone in the future, but more likely they finally tortured him to death and destroyed his body so he can't become a martyr.

[-] Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Be careful what you wish for, he's more hard line than Putin. War in Ukraine? He thinks Russia isn't sending enough troops, and he wants all of Ukraine. Way worse for LGBTQ+ rights than Putin, and that's not easy to do. He almost makes Putin look like a human rights activist.

[-] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

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[-] extant@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Disappointing.

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Any possibillity this could be the final spark before the powder keg detonates?

[-] Vyllenor 25 points 1 year ago

There has been so many "final" sparks, i lost hope already

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Sorry internet friend 😢 Do you live there or are you referring more to it like I am?

[-] Vyllenor 12 points 1 year ago
[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

What was the deal with the Russian Tax agency or whatever getting hacked and damaged?

[-] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Claims are denied, and I didn't see any change touching me.

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Lame.

The catholics would have sentenced his corpse.

And the Mormons are baptizing them. With or without the body or consent.

[-] CocktailSucker@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago

What catholics bro what are you smoking

[-] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Look up the Cadaver Synod. He's smoking historical facts.

[-] jack55555@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah but why would they do it to him? He is no catholic and there aren’t many Catholics in Russia.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 11 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Russian judges have halted new criminal proceedings for the jailed opposition leader Alexei Navalny as supporters say he has not contacted his lawyers in nearly two weeks and a UN official has said his absence amounted to a “forced disappearance”.

Courts halted seven judicial hearings on Monday “until [Navalny’s] whereabouts [is] established”, his lawyers said, further raising concerns that the Kremlin critic could be muzzled or even killed as Vladimir Putin has announced plans to extend his rule for a fifth presidential term.

Kira Yarmysh, an aide to Navalny, said his team had sent requests to nearly 200 Russian pre-trial detention centres searching for more information on the missing opposition leader but had not been able to find him.

The Kremlin has not answered questions on Navalny’s whereabouts, with Putin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov saying his team had “neither the intention nor the ability to track the fate of prisoners.”

Mr Navalny’s lawyers, who have been prevented from meeting him since 6 December, were told by the court that their client is no longer held in the Vladimir region, without providing any further details,” Katzarova said.

Navalny’s supporters have launched an anti-Putin guerrilla campaign including billboards in Moscow, St Petersburg and Novosibirsk with a QR-code linking to a website that calls for Putin critics to use nonviolent “partisan” tactics to voice their dissent.


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