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Fuck spez (lemmy.today)
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[-] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 110 points 2 years ago

To be fair, that was back when people could add any other reddit account as a moderator to a subreddit without their knowledge. Still, I think he was still listed as a moderator when r/jailbait was banned, which if that is true is entirely inexcusable.

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 48 points 2 years ago

They were 100% aware they were hosting a "not technically child pornography but we're going to use it as child pornography" sub, but there's no subreddit degenerate enough that they'll ban it while it's profitable.

[-] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 31 points 2 years ago

For those who don't know, look into the Creator of that sub. It's a crazy ass conspiracy type thing. Google Lake City Quiet Pills (link goes to a video from Nexpo on the subject) to go down a wild rabbit hole that somehow includes that sub. No child shit or whatever but it's hella interesting.

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[-] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Can't you do that on Lemmy now?

I say that as someone who now apparently moderates a Sims community on Lemmy.world

[-] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yes, you can appoint anyone as moderator and they'll be none the wiser unless they happen to look at their own profile page. I think the target must have comments/posts on the community first but not sure if it can be bypassed in the backend.

[-] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 5 points 2 years ago

That would make sense. I was one of the only people posting there

[-] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Hmm... not sure. That's interesting. On Reddit you can be invited and you have to accept, but not sure about Lemmy.

[-] GluWu@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

Look at me, I am the mods now.

[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Why be fair to Spez?

He wasn't fair to his userbase.

Treat people as ~~you would like to be treated~~ they demonstrate they treat people.

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 6 points 2 years ago

Do unto others as they do unto others

[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Exactly.

In a vacuum, be kind, but once someone shows you who they are, believe them and respond accordingly.

[-] EtherealMoon@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Fuck spez, but even if he was a moderator knowingly, wouldn't the point of that be to... moderate it, so that it didn't have illegal content?

Not vouching for "legal jailbait" or anything.

[-] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I never visited that subreddit, so I have no idea of the actual content. I don't know enough about the situation to be able to post more than I have without completely making stuff up, and in those situations its smarter to not say anything.

"A wise man speaks when he has something to say, but a fool speaks when he has to say something."

[-] AtariDump@lemmy.world 82 points 2 years ago
[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 34 points 2 years ago

Previous debate on this

My thinking: forget about technicalities of wherever he was an inactive “moderator”…

…focus on where he was an active administrator. NSFW ex. (link courtesy previous comment thread). Which includes the subreddit the OP is about, to be sure.

[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 13 points 2 years ago

I don't want links I want somebody to tell me what the sub is.

[-] neumast@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

It's r/CuteFemaleCorpses. At least that's what the ppl are talking about and where the link leads to.

[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 10 points 2 years ago

It looks like he was assigned as mod in a time when you could assign any valid username as a moderator to a sub. He was also assigned to r/jailbait among others.

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago

Right, hence my top-level comment and the previous discussion about it - given your link aversion:

~Spez was the mod of a vile sub!~ Spez was the admin of an entire site with many vile subs.

The more-easily-defensible criticism is also the harsher criticism.

[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 9 points 2 years ago

Just use your words ffs

It's r/cutefemalecorpses and r/jailbait, how hard is that that you would mess it up multiple times?

[-] lseif@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 years ago

i agree. but btw, if ur on android, u can use an app like UrlChecker to preview the link before opening, or maybe your lemmy client has a 'view source' option.

[-] meliaesc@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Oh, that's great, im on my ISP watch list now, thanks

[-] numberfour002@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago

Oh Spez.

I remember when "the other site" launched an instant messaging feature. It was buggy as hell and interfered with my browsing experience on the site. Totally didn't expect anything to come of it, but mostly jokingly messaged Spez through the new feature knowing it would go to an endless abyss never to be seen again. Surprisingly he responded. Cordial but ultimately also not at all helpful. But some time later (maybe a month?), the bug I messaged him about was fixed. So, maybe it wasn't all fruitless.

[-] xam54321@kbin.social 30 points 2 years ago

This is just spreading misinformation...
There are plenty of reason to not like him but this is not one of them.

[-] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago

He was listed as a mod on jailbait for quite a while. This information was pointed out over and over again on a website he ran, and he chose to do nothing about it. He was clearly aware of the situation.

[-] xam54321@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago

True, but back then you could add anyone as a mod, he didn't "moderate it" but was a "moderator on it".
A minor but key difference that means he just didn't care about perverts or that he was a leader of perverts.

[-] mrbubblesort@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago

He was free to take 2 seconds and remove himself from the list. He never did. It was always a "joke" on the site until it wasn't.

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago

Why would he have a moral obligation to remove himself from the list or pay attention to what subs he was added as mod? I could see complaining that as CEO he didn't choose to ban the sub sooner, but moderator status seems kind of irrelevant here.

[-] mrbubblesort@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago

You gotta realize reddit was a lot smaller back then and the admins, including spez, were much more active and engaged on the site. He was very much in on the "joke"

[-] Catoblepas 11 points 2 years ago

It illustrates how comfortable he was with having a CSAM enthusiast subreddit on a site he owned.

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago

Seems totally plausible and likely that he was added as moderator on a long list of subs and never perused or paid attention to that list, so how would it illustrate that? The infamy of that sub makes a lot more sense as evidence that he must have been aware of it, and that would be a legitimate basis for criticism. The moderator thing is just a memeable detail that is itself true but implies something that seems to be not true: that he had a direct role in operating the sub beyond running Reddit and allowing it to exist. I don't think there's a case for it having any significance beyond that false implication.

[-] Catoblepas 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Copying my reply from a different subthread:

You know they made a custom award for the creator of the jailbait sub called “Pimp Daddy,” right? And that for a long time one of the autosuggested results from Google when you googled reddit was the jailbait sub? Do you think a CEO of a “major company” (not what reddit was at the time, they were still desperately drumming up users) is somehow unaware of what shows up when you google their company?

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Like I said, that kind of argument would be better, it's not directly related to the moderator thing afaik

[-] dingus@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

Is there a body to this post? I can't see one on my Lemmy client, but everyone seems to be responding to something.

[-] JakenVeina@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Same, I see nothing but the title in the body.

[-] Clbull@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

If anyone wants another reason to hate spez, just look into his relationship with Drewiepoodle, aka /u/awkwardtheturtle, a misandristic degenerate who dedicated their free time to the noble cause of bullying men online because they were butthurt their wife transitioned. Reddit only suspended their account to stop people from asking questions, but they have self reported that they constantly use alts to ban evade.

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