And hopefully no instance will federate with them... Right?
Couldn’t just some of y’all defed instead of blocking it wholesale for everyone?
I thought one of the main perks of federation was user choice?
Yeah and we choose you going somewhere else to play with Facebook.
That’s true this place could really use less users.
This place is growing just fine already, we don’t need to dump 141 million new accounts into it overnight.
Well, that's what has always been mentioned, defederated from them, AFAIK there's no way of blocking it completely from the fediverse, so if your instance's admin wants they can decide to not block them and you can interact with meta.
If your instance defederates and you want to still see their activity then you can choose an instance which is still federated with them.
Right??
This is a bad take.
Worth noting that Meta through threads currently plans to collect and monetize the data of all users that it federates with.
That's actually the most interesting concern I've seen raised about this. I hadn't thought about that. The embrace, extend, extinguish thing is what you see most people raise as a issue.
They don't need ActivityPub for that. Nearly everything on the fediverse is public and scrapable. If they want to monetize fediverse data, they already can
Why would they if they want the Fediverse to grow. Gatekeeping is awful.
no help of big company needed for growth
Infinity grow is a mirage. We need to understand that. It's fine if a social media as a limit.
What's important is how you manage to keep it in life. Even here, you have a limit. It's conservative to think that it will last for ever as you will encontre the same issue as with infinite grow.
The fact is that thing appear, have a lifespan and die. Social media aren't immune to it.
Because?
Because I don't want Facebook to get my content, nor do I want their content in my feeds. I joined the fediverse to be as far away from corpos (facebook, twitter, youtube) as possible.
Facebook, and literally anyone else, can already get all your content.
It would take all of a second to scrape your user page. Obviously that wouldn't grant your IP address or anything, but neither would federation.
Meta is only pushing, not pulling. So if you’re an influential person there is less incentive to create a masto account. Threads content will appear in both places, but Mastodon content will only get exposure with mastodon’s smaller user base.
The fear is that the broader Fediverse will get hooked on a flood of Threads content. They have much more daily active users, and as we already know, large instances can easily dominate a feed. And Threads will be gigantic.
Tell that to this guy
Mhm, just because John Mastodon embraces Meta doesn't mean that I have to like it.
The great Mastodon.social itsself would federate they wrote some blogs back when threads anounced activitypub integtation
Hi. No one is creating content on Threads, can we steal your content, please?
Meh. Threads is quite busy on my feed. I loved chatting during Doctor Who just like I used to when Twitter was around. I use Lemmy, Mastodon, and Threads, personally. I find Threads to be super wholesome and positive and it can only help the Fediverse thrive with mainstream users much like Gmail did with email.
Gmail did with email.
That might be the worst example you could have chosen, given that Gmail is largely responsible for the current technical impossibility of self hosted email.
RIP open and user owned Internet movement attempt.
Say Hello to Fediverse+, for only $39.99 a month you can access ad free browsing as your feed is fed only corpo approved posts that have flooded and drowned out any alternative voices.
I'm don't totally understand the fediverse and how it works. How does meta making one of their options federated harm the rest of the fediverse?
Wow, this shit needs to be posted everywhere.
It was for a good few weeks
There is zero benefit to engaging with multi-billion dollar companies.
The harm is they embrace, extend, extinguish the Fediverse and I can easily see the W3C letting them donate and start putting in some features “to protect” the children or media ownership rights or whatever bogus excuse they’ll use to start cracking down on it like every company does every time it gets involved in something.
Threads federation is mostly targeted towards Mastodon than Lemmy, so I highly doubt it will make much of a difference whether any Lemmy instance federates or not, since Lemmy is purely group based and does not federate well with even Mastodon to begin with as there is a huge difference in design philosophy. (Which means I can stay under the radar a bit longer.)
However, I don't think Facebook will stop at Threads, they are using Threads as a preliminary test, and if it goes well, I think the next step they could do is to get Instagram itself to federate.
So here is a thought: suppose reddit or Instagram are open to federation, would you say federating with them and getting all their content will be worth it?
And so it begins.....Embrace.
Has mastodon blocked threads? Please block it. Kill that shit and hope thread will take zuckerberg out too.
Mastodon.social admin and lead mastodon dev Eugen Rochko signed an NDA with Facebook and has since been in support of Threads' embrace of the Fediverse and asked people to give Facebook a chance. We won't know if he's made some deal (monetary or otherwise) with Facebook due to aformentioned NDA.
Many instances of the fediverse are anti-Threads despite his shilling though.
I'm all for it. People can defederate if they need to, but I'm all for just letting it happen. If I have friends on threads but I don't wanna join, cool.
Let's all tone down the snobbery.
Fuuuuuuuck that.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Joining the fediverse — the decentralized world of social media that includes Mastodon, Pixelfed, and other services that all interoperate through ActivityPub — has been on the Threads team’s to-do list since the very beginning.
Instagram head Adam Mosseri told The Verge in July that he believed decentralizing the platform was key to making it relevant to a new generation of creators.
Skeptics have long held that Threads would never actually federate, even as Zuckerberg, Mosseri, and others at Meta kept promising they would.
For the largest and most centralized social service on the web, suddenly throwing open the gates to other platforms seemed like an unlikely pivot.
This test appears to only cover one small part of a truly federated social network — it doesn’t sound like you’ll be able to post from Mastodon to Threads, for instance, and you can’t move your account between services.
But the test at least reaffirms Meta’s commitment to ActivityPub and to being part of the broader open social web.
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