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[-] RickyWars@lemmy.ca 174 points 1 year ago

Cool that average FPS is better but:

The impressive FPS deltas aside, it should be mentioned that, with the exception of Arch Linux, average frame times (measured as 1% lows, in this case) on Linux were generally behind what Windows managed by up to 20%

I feel like worse 1% lows makes this title misleading. Hopefully with time this gap will close.

[-] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 46 points 1 year ago

1 % lows are likely a driver thing (Nvidia calls it "Game Ready Drivers"), with Arch you'll get new drivers (or kernel versions) much earlier, similar to Windows.

[-] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago

... Then why did they get the results that they did in the article?

[-] averyfalken 37 points 1 year ago

The article specifies arch as an exception to that

[-] mob@lemmy.world 94 points 1 year ago

Death, taxes and this post on Lemmy

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 79 points 1 year ago

Testing done on specific hardware and not a broad spectrum of machines is as relevant as asking one person their political opinion and saying that applies to their whole nation.

[-] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Well sure but rephrased it's just "Three Linux distros that embarrass Windows 11 in gaming performance." which to me, is equally interesting.

[-] adrian783@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

article title: windows DEAD LAST!

also in the same article: "... When it comes to FPS, the overall leader in testing was Nobara Linux, with Arch Linux and Pop!_OS trailing by 1–5%. Windows 11, however, was only 6% behind Nobara Linux. So, **there isn't a massive performance delta here, **"

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[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"on that one specific machine."

You're missing that part from your premise and it's the important one.

Notice how they didn't use one with an Nvidia GPU... Or even hardware released this year either...

Edit: Aaaw, I made you angwy and you downvoted me :(

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[-] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 75 points 1 year ago

...switching to Linux might be worthwhile for gamers on the move looking to eke out every last drop of performance from the ROG Ally or Lenovo Legion Go.

So they're talking about the ROG Ally and Lenovo Legion Go not a desktop PC or a laptop. Nice clickbait.

[-] the_q@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

I'm on a desktop running Pop and I bet my system performs better than an equal Windows system. These handhelds are actual PCs, bud.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They are just PCs though...? It's just a different form factor.

[-] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Okay. But it's still a clickbait title. Seeing how they said nothing handheld PCs in the title.

[-] lea@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago

The article is referencing a benchmark that was run on desktop hardware so not clickbait. Likely they mentioned the handhelds in the article for ref link revenue.

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[-] Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The article talks about those mobile systems, but the actual benchmark on Computerbase tested these on a desktop.

Ryzen 7 5800X

Scythe Mugen 5 cooler

Asus ROG Strix B550-A Gaming

32BG DDR4-3600-RAM (CL18-22-22-44)

Sapphire RX 6700 XT Nitro+

Tested @ 1080p 144Hz, Freesync Off

[-] corm@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 year ago

Out of touch comment.

Handheld PCs are PCs.

[-] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Linux bros will take anything.

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 72 points 1 year ago

What do the performance metrics look like for the games that won't run on Linux?

[-] SquirtleHermit@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

About the same as Spiderman 2 or Ghost of Tsushima on Windows.

[-] agraves@lm.possum.city 34 points 1 year ago

you mean the rootkits that won't run on Linux?

[-] Toribor@corndog.social 48 points 1 year ago

When did 'rootkit' come to be a generic term for invasive software? Rootkits are a specific type of thing.

[-] lemann@lemmy.one 42 points 1 year ago

Anticheats that run in the NT kernel may as well be described as rootkits, especially as they aren't transparent about exactly what they're doing. Then there's the question of what happens if they get compromised

[-] agraves@lm.possum.city 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Vanguard, BattlEye, EasyAntiCheat, Ricochet, etc... all run in the Windows Kernel and most, if not all, have the functionality to run arbitrary code, so might as well class them as rootkits.

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[-] ls64@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago

I still can't get anything to run consistently in Linux after 10 years, and many, many distros. Timber born and Raft currently never open, no matter what. I a huge Linux user but the gamin experience has always been so finicky for me and no matter how much I try it's still unattainable. And even when they run its with a lot of configution and tinkering unless it has native support. I have no issue with that but I'm so frustrated my experience with this seems so diffent than what everyone else is having. I want to delete my windows partition and it still feels so far away.

[-] dewritoninja@pawb.social 21 points 1 year ago

What have you been doing. Cause for me it's just install steam enable proton and install pretty much any game on my library. Or install lutris login to my accounts and play epic games / gog games. It literally just works

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[-] Jaffa@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

YMMV of course but I was playing Timberborn just the other day on Mint, on an Nvidia card, through Heroic. Proton seems to have been a gamechanger. I have just made my first steps into switching my daily driver myself. I may have been lucky but all the games I have wanted to play have worked so far. I also have a Steam Deck, which is what has encouraged me that it may be possible.

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[-] pedestrian@links.hackliberty.org 37 points 1 year ago

This has been reposted enough to where I'm going to start blocking accounts that continue to post it 😎

[-] the_q@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Aww I'm sorry you're stuck in Windows, bud.

[-] pedestrian@links.hackliberty.org 27 points 1 year ago

Lol, you might misunderstand my issue with the constant repost. I get it. Reading comprehension is hard!

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[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

News flash, Windows is garbage.

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[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 year ago

I’ve been out of the industry for a while, but unless Windows was completely rewritten from the ground up in the last 5 years, this doesn’t surprise me. That OS has always been a hot, bloated mess. And no, I’m not a Linux bro. I use another heavily commercialised OS that doesn’t run Windows because I no longer have the energy to care.

An OS written on Unix can outperform Windows? I’m shocked.

[-] Ripper@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

windows is overbloated garbage

[-] thatgirlwasfire@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

I wonder if they did these tests using ray tracing or not. On my AMD 7900xt in Cyberpunk, ray tracing under linux is practically unusable levels of performance compared to windows .

[-] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Safe bet, they didn't. Seeing they're talking about the ROG Ally and Lenovo Legion Go.

[-] vikingtons@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

radv is gradually catching up with amdvlk in terms of rtrt perf. could be worth using amdvlk for raytacing for now, though

[-] aniki@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago

expect more and more of these headlines as linux gaming matures in the next few years.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I recently switched to Linux this year (finally), and my experience has been the same.

Not only that, but in some cases, playing a Windows version of a game with Proton seems to work better than the native Linux runtime.

Edit: I use Arch, btw. (lol jk I use EndeavorOS, which is based on Arch)

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[-] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago

I keep hearing and seeing from seemingly everyone that Linux gaming is better basically every month, how it keeps improving and stuff (like the article here)

But for me personally it never did in the last 5 years, whenever I try to step out if emulation and back to windows exlusove games? Its like 5 bullet Russian roulette, if it works at all and doesn't stop working for inexlicitly no reason

What are yall doing to actually make things work somewhat reasonable (default lutris, proton, or ge has never even renowtly worked how well for me, at all)

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[-] can@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

OP I love your username

[-] computerscientistI@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Maybe. But it does so in ALL OF THE GAMES!!!

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[-] BarbecueCowboy@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

Anyone have a good explanation on 'Frame Time'? This is the first time I've heard of this term and after some quick googling I feel like I'm not understanding why it's worth caring about.

[-] packetloss@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

It's how long it takes the system to render the next frame. High frame times are no good. Equates to lower average fps, and poor player experience. You also want stable frame times. This equates to smooth gameplay and less "stuttering". Anything under 20ms is considered good. 10ms and less is great. Anything over 50ms will be perceived by the player in a negative way.

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[-] Xideta@ani.social 9 points 1 year ago

I've heard that Linux's task scheduler is just much better than windows', so it kinda makes sense that all would beat Windows.

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