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[-] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 244 points 2 years ago

Largest prison population both in absolute size AND per capita. Also, random fact, their constitution allows prisoners to be forced into slave labour. Also, another random fact, their prisons are run for profit. None of these facts are related of course!

[-] cornbread@lemm.ee 68 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Not to nitpick but not ALL prisons in the US are for-profit. They should be illegal though.

Fun fact - other countries that have for-profit prisons include Australia, Canada, France, the UK, Israel, South Korea, and New Zealand.

This won’t do much since most of these prisons operate under state jurisdiction, but in 2021, President Joe Biden issued an executive order to stop the United States Department of Justice from renewing further contracts with private prisons.

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[-] TheRaven@lemmy.ca 68 points 2 years ago

Next you’re going to tell me that these for-profit prisons lobby the government for harsher prison sentences for things like cannabis possession.

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[-] httpjames@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 years ago

And house arrest is being used for mass incarceration of people being ACCUSED before conviction. The punishment can be more severe before conviction.

[-] nothingcorporate@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

And many states let private companies charge accused people up to $40 a day for the ankle bracelets.

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[-] Hypersapien@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Only about 8% of the US prison population is in for-profit prisons.

[-] WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works 35 points 2 years ago

Listen I live in the USA, but if thats your best pushback to all those facts - should tell you what a dire state we are in. And prisons that aren't for profit still send out prisoners to for-profit industries to work, so it's kind of a moot point.

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[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 27 points 2 years ago

And how many of these other prisons offer up their prisoners as extremely cheap labor to businesses that ARE for profit?

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[-] Dohnakun@lemmy.fmhy.ml 122 points 2 years ago
[-] ricky135uk@sh.itjust.works 73 points 2 years ago

And yet still most Americans think everyone is trying to sneak into their country! You couldn't pay me to live there.

I'm surprised there is not more travel advisory warnings for travel to America 😮‍💨

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[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 34 points 2 years ago

Listen, a lot of people don't understand the key to the living well in the United States. It's really very simple. Just be rich. You'll have the best life ever.

If you're too stupid to be rich (or you didn't inherit a billion dollars from your parents), blame some poor brown dude for "stealing" a shitty job that you didn't actually want anyways because it's worse and pays less than your shitty job. It won't make anything better at all but at least you'll feel like you understand why everything sucks (even though you actually don't) and you'll have the benefit of living in poverty AND feeling smugly superior to someone else who also lives in poverty for stupid (racist) reasons.

And if you think about it, that sense of superiority is nearly as good (it definitely isn't) as being rich.

[-] Dohnakun@lemmy.fmhy.ml 14 points 2 years ago

Appropriate reaction. I never did the whole thing, because i'm not US and suddenly had enough.

[-] Bluetreefrog@lemm.ee 21 points 2 years ago
[-] Narwhalrus@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

This was incredible. Thanks for sharing.

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[-] geissi@feddit.de 92 points 2 years ago

Reminder that the US have never abolished slavery for prisoners and have one of the largest slave population in the world.

[-] Zithero@lemmy.world 55 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yep... And every time there's an employment issue for the agricultural industry, they whip out the prisoners...

However to the prisoner's credit: They do an absolutely terrible job at whatever it is they're doing.

Why? What are they going to do... Fire you? Jail you? You have no incentive at all to do the job well as a prisoner.

Bonus is by doing a horrific job it makes employers less likely to actually request prison workforces.

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[-] cheeseburgers@lemmy.world 72 points 2 years ago

THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD A PRISON THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD A PRISON THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD A PRISON FOR YOU AND ME

[-] corvax@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 2 years ago

All research and successful drug policy SHOOOWS that treatment should be increased

[-] devilish@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Law enforcement decreased while abolishing. mandatory. minimum. sentences.

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[-] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 48 points 2 years ago

Nice to see that even here - a shitposting forum - whenever anybody posts anything negative about America, yanks can't handle it.

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[-] KillaBeez@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago

I left Reddit to escape bullshit like this

[-] Monkeyhog@lemmy.world 60 points 2 years ago

You came to the wrong fucking place then.

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[-] spicy_biscuits@kbin.social 36 points 2 years ago

And I left reddit to escape idiots like you. If I can handle being disappointed, so can you. Shut the fuck up.

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[-] AnonTwo@kbin.social 30 points 2 years ago

I don't think this is exclusively a reddit thing

[-] ElRompeCulo@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

Me too. The “America bad” thing got old on Reddit. I Hope it doesn’t take off here too.

[-] MostlyBirds@lemmy.world 95 points 2 years ago

If you don't want to hear about America being bad, don't go to the same places as people who live in reality.

[-] ElRompeCulo@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

I don’t deny the problems with this country. I vote to try and make this country better. Seeing the same posts about how horrible this country is gets old after a while. A majority of Reddit and this site would agree with the flaws of the US. The people who really need to hear this stuff aren’t on here.

[-] Machinist3359@kbin.social 39 points 2 years ago

Pointing out flaws in the country shouldn't be seen as a personal attack or critique. Many of the victims of America are it's citizens (e.g., the incarcerated).

Nationalism just twists the government into our personal identity to manipulate us. Making fun of the government/system is healthy.

This isn't "Americans dumb" content, which attacks the actual citizens and understandably may weigh on someone.

[-] magnetosphere@kbin.social 18 points 2 years ago

I’m extremely happy to see a real conversation happening. This is actually worth reading, and not just another idiotic shouting match.

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[-] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 years ago

Hi. As a not American, I can say Americans get made fun of a lot by not Americans. We like to share these jokes with each other online, as not Americans also use the internet.

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[-] thisbenzingring@wirebase.org 20 points 2 years ago

See most places are bad but America should be better. It presents itself as the better. It does not always live up to that better and so those people who want us to be better keep reminding us we have a lot of work to do. I can tell you personally how horrible America can be but I don't think you want to hear that from a Lakota.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 18 points 2 years ago

I hate to break it to you but most of the fediverse skews even more left than Reddit did.

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[-] Monkeyhog@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

You came to the wrong fucking place then.

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[-] S_H_K@kbin.social 28 points 2 years ago

They made it a business. How many places in the world have private incarceration facilities?

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[-] Hikiru@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

I’ve heard some prisons have minimum prisoner requirements, which is incredibly fucked up

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