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If you do, then what exactly defines a soul in your view?

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[-] plain_and_simply@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

Agnostic here brought up with Buddhist grandparents. I like the idea of reincarnation - (I don't deny not truly believe it) you need a "soul" to leave you physical body and to repeat in an endless cycle. Nirvana is when you break free of this cycle and gain enlightenment.

The idea that a part of us may live on has helped cope with mourning a lost one. But that's really it - in the face of mortality, sometimes you find mechanisms to cope. Don't think I answered your question...

[-] PeWu@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I don't think humans have souls. When we die, we do just that. I don't think we are so special to have something other species don't, so if we (humans) have them, then other species also can.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't believe it, but I some times wonder if some kind of self is preserved as energy within the universe somehow. Effectively being a soul, but in a sense of physics more than spirituality. Much like how the physical body will decay and return to the earth, the energy that makes up consciousness could simply return to the universe.

[-] jimmy90@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

i don't believe in god but i think life is infinitely profound; as profound as an idea like the soul. so i guess it depends on your definition of soul and how creative or spiritual you are

[-] NochMehrG@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Well, I use the word "soul" to sum up what makes a person a person, their base values, moral standpoint, what they love and hate etc. The warmth of a person. In the same way I would say that somebody forfeits their soul because of their acts. And I'd argue that our soul "lives on" after we die in the people we've made an impression on or in general through the effects of our actions. But some magic person-container? No. We die and then we're dead.

[-] Celivalg@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 1 year ago

No, I wanted to explain why I don't believe in their existance, but I couldn't write something without comming off as an asshole, so sorry.

[-] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I'm agnostic. I do believe we have a soul, I just think we haven't discovered what it actually is yet. Like, scientifically we're not quite able to explain yet what makes a soul a soul. I'm not sure if a soul disconnects and "moves on" somewhere/somehow after a body death, or if it also dies out with the body, but I like to think there is a disconnection there. I agree that it makes me feel better about death in general, so yeah, maybe that's why I so easily accept such an idea?

But, it feels like more than that to me. It's fundamentally what makes each of us individualistic in terms of the choices we make. It's what makes me, "me."

I'm going to tie this in with abortion, so I apologize in advance, Lol, but I'm 100% convinced that the abortion debate will never come to a conclusion unless we discover what a soul is scientifically. Right now the picking at random physical stages, like a heartbeat or lung formation/ability only goes so far, because it doesn't explain what makes each individual so individualistic. No one will ever convince someone who believes a soul starts at conception that abortion from the start is anything but murder. (To be clear, I'm pro-life, though 100% believe there's a cut-off point).

So, to sum it all up: yes, there's a soul, though i dont tie it to any god or religion. yes, I believe one day we'll prove there's a soul scientifically, we just aren't there yet.

[-] Fenzik@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

No. All evidence points towards “you” being nothing more than your body. Mess with the brain and the whole personality can change. What would then constitute the soul if it’s completely divorced from both physical reality and who you subjectively are as a person?

[-] albertsy2@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago
[-] Bebo@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

I do not. What we call consciousness is, I believe, is nothing but an expression of the nervous system. When the physical body dies, that is the end. There is no existence after that.

[-] object_Object@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago
[-] Ixoid@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

No. If you can't find it in an autopsy, did it ever exist in the first place? Too many people confuse 'soul' for 'mind' (IMHO)

[-] CowboyBobo@lemdit.com 1 points 1 year ago

I kinda do but I believe that a soul is just what drives a person in their lifetime. It is made up of their thoughts, emotions, and experiences. After a person dies their soul goes too and that’s the end of it.

[-] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago

There isn't any particular definition of "soul" that I believe in, but I think that there are many open questions about what consciousness is and how it works. Until we know more about that, I reserve my judgement on whether something that could be called a soul exists.

[-] ram@lemmy.ramram.ink 1 points 1 year ago

It really depends on what you mean? It's a purposely, nearly obtusely, intangible concept. I'm not unwilling to talk about it if I get a proper definition, but my opinion would be a mere opinion formed from the facts I have on hand. I have some suppositions that are outside the realm of what science has been able to dig in to, but without actually factual backing, I also acknowledge that my ideas are conjecture that line up with how I perceive the world.

[-] kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

No. Soul = personality, nothing magic.

[-] PeWu@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think humans have souls. When we die, we do just that. I don't think we are so special to have something other species don't, so if we (humans) have them, then other species also can.

[-] BendyLemmy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think 'soul' is not something which exists in itself - it is the idea of the essence of a thing, the thing which causes an individual life.

So theories go around that there are spiritual beings separate from the physical (debatable) and I personally think that it extends to all life, such that trees can have awareness which can also extend beyond their physical bodies.

As such, they obviously exist - but their exact definition and nature is quite hard to grasp. I don't think they can survive physical death.

[-] PeWu@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think humans have souls. When we die, we do just that. I don't think we are so special to have something other species don't, so if we (humans) have them, then other species also can.

[-] PeWu@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think humans have souls. When we die, we do just that. I don't think we are so special to have something other species don't, so if we (humans) have them, then other species also can.

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