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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by TendieMaster69@midwest.social to c/youshouldknow@lemmy.world

"When you use Signal, your data is stored in encrypted form on your devices. The only information that is stored on the Signal servers for each account is the phone number you registered with, the date and time you joined the service, and the date you last logged on."

This isn't an ad, I wasn't paid for this post. Just to clear the air: fuck facebook, fuck elon musk and twitter, fuck anyone who thinks this is a paid advertisement. I wish I was paid for this shit, I just wanted to spread the word. Thank you. 😀 👍

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[-] Bad_And_Wrong@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago

I heard its used by media people to contact each other or their sources which is a little convincing.

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[-] obinice@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

My problem with Signal is that nobody I know uses it, which unfortunately makes it useless.

Other than that, I genuinely think it's pretty great. But you'll have to persuade people to leave Facebook and WhatsApp en masse before it becomes ubiquitous enough to be useful.

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[-] Art3sian@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Question: in 2019 Australia passed an encryption law that requires every piece of software used in Australia to have a back door for law enforcement to access to ‘counter terrorism’, wank, wank.

Does Signal have back door access in Australia?

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[-] morain@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

I use signal on my phone and laptop but a while back they stopped supporting tablet versions. Wish they would bring that back.

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[-] jabakobob@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago

I think Signal is trying too hard to be secure, and they are missing a lot of convenience features.

For example, you can't migrate from Android to iOS or vice versa. You'll lose all your messages and groups.

Or it's really hard to export all the photos someone sent you. I get that my iCloud library isn't as secure, but I really want to make sure I don't lose those photos if I lose my device. The photos aren't that sensitive.

The security notifications are also well-meaning, but hard to make sense of. You sometimes get notifications for changed security numbers, when people change their phone, sometimes folks show up twice in groups, etc. It's all a bit hard to understand and difficult to use.

And finally, it seems that messages are sometimes delivered a bit unreliably or with a long delay.

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[-] TPMJB@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

I've been using Telegram primarily and it's nice being able to logon to any device and have my chat history, but it doesn't seem secure at all. I imagine the NSA has direct access to it.

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[-] blacklizardplanet@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Love signal, just for me, I know 2 people who use it. Tried to get a group chat to move there but WhatsApp has too big a grasp.

[-] Bazoogle@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Here in the US at least, Whatsapp is not nearly as prevalent as some other parts of the world. I got all my coworkers in my 6 person department to use it. I got my SO to use it. Somehow getting my family to start a group chat was one of the harder ones. I'll keep doing my part :)

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[-] techgearwhips@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

After convincing a shitload of iMessage users to get telegram, I'm not going through that again.

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[-] _MoveSwiftly@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Hello there, and welcome to our community! I hope you like it in here.

Could you please include some body text as to why should people know this, and how would that help them? It’s our second rule. Thank you :)

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago

It has its downsides as well. Though better than WhatsApp and telegram obviously

https://www.freie-messenger.de/en/warumnicht/signal/

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[-] chrisvander@programming.dev 10 points 2 years ago

What about Matrix? Much better, IMO

[-] nocturne213@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

I used signal for about a month and kept having issues with it. After i removed it from my phone i received over 100 texts i never got while using it.

[-] fgjbvdrgbbb@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 2 years ago

Signal is shit, its a honeypot. It requires your Phone Number and that the persons chatting have each other in their contacts on device, even if you convince friends not to use WhatsApp, WhatsApp, Google, Apple and every other App, someone installed that can access your contacts knows your Name, Phone Number and People you are connected to.

Signal relies on NSA Cloud Servers and "security" features of Intel Processore that are going to be broken or probably there already is a backdoor.

You can't have it on multiple devices with multiple accounts, its a closed ecosystem and doesn't have a big community involved with checking the code. They get funded by US Gov. and tried to put obvious backdoors in their desktop apps.

Use Matrix.org , I also heard good things about SimpleX.

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[-] rimorso@feddit.it 10 points 2 years ago

My main messaging app is telegram, what would be the advantage in moving to signal? ( Pretending I manage to convince at least my main contacts )

[-] AnotherPerson@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

There's the rub. Unless privacy is your highest priority there isn't any advantage. I wish I could convince my main contacts to move but convenience is a higher priority for them.

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[-] mochi@lemdit.com 10 points 2 years ago

Telegram chats aren't e2ee by default. You're essentially putting your chats on a server owned by a rich Russian person as a hobby.

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[-] QubaXR@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

I love Signal, but was unable to convince enough of my network to migrate. They are mostly stuck using Meta's spyware (Instagram and Whatsapp). In the end, Telegram seemed like a good mid-way for enough of my friends and peers.

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[-] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago

The only information that is stored on the Signal servers for each account is the phone number you registered with, the date and time you joined the service, and the date you last logged on."

Ahem, and a list of contacts, they've improved since, but it used to be that this was a simple hash of the phone number which is obviously vulnerable to a very easily generated rainbow table.

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[-] lightrush@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

My network is all on Signal and Signal has been good to us. Matrix may become the way of the future but for now Signal is a good place to be for this lot.

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