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[-] IWriteDaCode@programming.dev 33 points 2 years ago

I will never be able to get behind a subscription-based terminal, with so much competition in the FOSS space for terminals, there's just no reason to.

[-] jpfreely@programming.dev 12 points 2 years ago

That's the one problem. An LLM enhanced terminal sounds great. Sharing every command with the cloud does not.

Why is Rust-based a feature? I don't care how your tool is built, I care for what it can do and how usable it is.

[-] traches@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago

The rust language is designed to prevent entire classes of bugs which are common in other languages, so in theory rust code should be less buggy and more "correct" for the same amount of effort.

[-] RangerHere@programming.dev 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I love Rust. Although I agree with everything else, I would definitely not say "same amount of effort".

[-] traches@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

I guess I phrased that poorly - yeah you'll move faster in other languages, but then you'll have a long tail of debugging. Rust will take longer at first, but you'll have less debugging to do once it's working.

[-] leviosa@programming.dev 11 points 2 years ago

It's got AI too, which means it's extra sparkly good. But points deducted for no blockchain features or running as a bunch of microservices.

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

Honest answer? Because many of us are tired of experiencing the same bugs over and over again for decades.

[-] dmh@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago

On terminals? like what?

[-] dukk@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago

Rust generally means more stable software. Anyone who’s developed a Rust app knows how uncompromising the borrow checker is.

[-] syl@programming.dev 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I checked the about page and damn.. It is a for profit company and quite a big team! It consists of 26 people (!) to build a terminal... It is probably going to be a subscription at some point.. Not for me.

[-] IWriteDaCode@programming.dev 14 points 2 years ago

Damn, 26 people, let's assume they get paid reasonably well, though they probably aren't all developers. I'm going to assume 100K on average, just spit balling.

That's two and a half million dollars per year to build a terminal (very conservative estimate). And, like, does it reeeeealy do more then other terminals? Especially when you include different shells with plugins? AI, it's so hot right now, but it is better than zsh or fish autocomplete? I built the simplest AI shell script to ask GPT-4 questions, easy, many FOSS options already out there, is that not good enough for people?

Yeah, I'm just having trouble figuring out how this isn't a waste of time and will implode when seed funding dries up.

[-] wyrmroot@programming.dev 16 points 2 years ago

I will never use a terminal that requires a subscription to use my own damn computer.

[-] TehPers@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago

I think the devs have already been made aware, but warp is also the name of a well known web framework for Rust.

[-] hallettj@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago

Yes; I met one of the devs a while ago, and we had to have a little disambiguation conversation when he said, "I work on Warp."

[-] Kalabasa@programming.dev 7 points 2 years ago

How is it? Anyone have tried it yet?

[-] sneakyninjapants@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 years ago

Top comment from HN discussion:

Makes it a complete no-go for me

iamdamian 9 days ago

I check out Warp every 6 months or so, because I’d love to see more innovation with the terminal, and the screenshots look great. But the story’s the same every time: I download the app, fire it up, and am greeted by a mandatory ‘sign up’ screen and privacy policy, at which point I close and immediately delete the app.

I will never be okay with a terminal that requires me to have a proprietary login to operate on my own local file system with local tooling.

[-] Kalabasa@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago

Wow, why does a terminal app even...

I see it's a (for-profit) terminal app company https://www.warp.dev/about

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

ha ha ha no thank you

[-] Hexarei@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago

Lol what the absolute fuck

[-] Luvon@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

I love it, has lots of sensible things that should have been fixed forever ago. You can just edit the input like normal text.

It makes blocks out of output which makes navigating output much easier

[-] dukk@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago

Want a great, FOSS, Rust-powered terminal? Check out WezTerm; I use it daily and it's amazing.

[-] sirdorius@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

It seems to do a lot of interesting new things, but the subscription and registration model makes it a no go. Still, this is a net positive, as it might give some new ideas for a FOSS implementation similar to it.

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